Apple dumps Intel and shows Final Cut Pro on new Mac with Apple CPU !

Why can't you use a TB reader and just copy the files to the internal drive?

And then back out to TB external drive?

[You're not going to need to power...it's a selling point of the computer, lol.]

I have 4 512GB and 4 256 cards to backup sometimes. That method is just doubling the time.
My 2018 book has a battery runtime of 8hrs in specs but goes barely over 2hrs in the field
 
I canceled my iPad Air4 preorder. Main purpose was playback R5 files on location from a card reader. I’m very tempted by the 13” MBP but as there is no USB4 hub (yet) I have no clue how I could copy files from a reader to the external SSD and power the book at the same time. Same in the office with a bigger second screen

huh? isn't usb4 backwards compatible with usb 3 etc? Can't you use whatever you were using before for the time being?
 
huh? isn't usb4 backwards compatible with usb 3 etc? Can't you use whatever you were using before for the time being?

In the meanwhile I found just one dock the Dell Thunderbolt Dock – WD19TB 180W with tb3 and two USB-c ports. All other I know have just one tb3/USB-C loop through. That means one device had to be plugged into USB3.1 wich could need some time when you copy 4TB
 
Caldigit TB3 Plus ... bunch of USB 3.2, TB passtrough and another 10Gb/s USB C port ... 87W power for the computer charging.
 
Intel is falling apart. I may be intermixing its history with Boeing, but it's the same trajectory and it has happened with many others.

Except that you're wrong. Intel isn't actually in trouble. It's been through some major upheavals to be sure, but it's still a huge company, and even though TSMC and Samsung (and therefore AMD, nVidia, and Apple) have taken a process lead over Intel, it's actually quite healthy.

The reason is that the leadership realized its blunder, and adapted. It's lost leadership in the CPU arena, but it's still making new ones -- in fact it revealed some details about an upcoming microarchitecture that looks like it could give Zen3 a drubbing... the catch is that it's due in 2022, right around where Zen5 lies on AMD's roadmap.

More importantly (for Intel) however, is that it's working to diversify itself. The new emphasis on visual computing is part of that, as are its fPGAs, new memory technologies, and cellular modems. Its portfolio is actually quite large, quite a bit larger than AMD's, though AMD is working on that also. That's probably why AMD decided to acquire Xilinx. I haven't been able to determine whether or not AMD still has an ARM license. I think that Intel still has one, and it might even be making the ARM processors that are part of the Agilex fPGA package.

I don't see Intel catching up with AMD any time soon, regardless of how successful Apple is with its new line of processors, unless AMD also fall flat on its face in the near future.

That said, you can bet that AMD is also keeping an eye on the M1, even though it's working on eating up market share from both Intel and nVidia. If the M1 lives up to the expectations, the rivalry might well turn to Apple vs AMD rather than ARM vs x86 before long.

I still don't think that Intel will go away, or stop making x86 processors, but I do expect its other businesses to overshadow its x86 processors.
 
Intel has a market cap of $183B on the P/E of under 9. AMD has a market cap of $99B and the P/E of 111. And, since the cost of a CPU manufacturing is very low, Intel can continue discounting the current generation for years to come.

The market does see others chipping away at it ... so to say.
 
I have 4 512GB and 4 256 cards to backup sometimes. That method is just doubling the time.
My 2018 book has a battery runtime of 8hrs in specs but goes barely over 2hrs in the field

If you use TB4 at its highest spec, we're talking about ~2 minutes per 512GB card if you have the time. (Add another ~2 minutes back out to the TB4 SSD.)

I imagine any production in the world has a minute to chill for a second and start a transfer while you continue shooting on your other card(s).
 
If you use TB4 at its highest spec, we're talking about ~2 minutes per 512GB card if you have the time. (Add another ~2 minutes back out to the TB4 SSD.)

I imagine any production in the world has a minute to chill for a second and start a transfer while you continue shooting on your other card(s).

atm there is no TB4 card reader neither a housing with tb4 for the SSD. I'd be happy to stay with USB-C and not falling back on USB 3.0. I never reach the highest specs by far.
 
Intel has a market cap of $183B on the P/E of under 9. AMD has a market cap of $99B and the P/E of 111. And, since the cost of a CPU manufacturing is very low, Intel can continue discounting the current generation for years to come.

The market does see others chipping away at it ... so to say.

The manufacturing cost is low for a company with large enough volume to amortize over, but the cost for modernizing a fab is astronomical. In order to get the costs down, a semico needs to be able to manufacture parts in huge numbers.

Intel for years has had a huge edge over AMD there; it could make in a month with just one fab the same number of chips as AMD could in an entire year total. That isn't true any more, and part of why AMD is able to offer its processors for less than Intel does is due to using an external fab whose capacity makes Intel's look small. And AMD snarfed up the capacity that got freed up when Apple moved off of TSMC's 7nm process node.

IMO chipping away is putting it mildly.
 
I'm thinking about these powerful people at these companies all thinking about each other and what they know and don't know.

I don't follow the specifics about the business(es), but how Intel let this happen is unimaginable.

Then again - and before I wrote this post - I looked up Intel's revenue and Apple only accounted for at most 3 billion out of the 75 billion they made, so maybe it's not the end of the world.[/QUOTE]

But I wonder how many out there that are currently using non-Apple Intel powered machines may migrate to Apple powered Apple machines if the computers are that damn good?
 
But I wonder how many out there that are currently using non-Apple Intel powered machines may migrate to Apple powered Apple machines if the computers are that damn good?

Probably not as many as the Apple fans would hope. Gamers aren't likely candidates, because there aren't powerful enough GPUs available for Apple's ARM processors right now, and the biggest threat to Intel (and nVidia) in that market is the two new gaming consoles.

On the workstation front it's FAR too early to tell. Apple has nothing truly competitive in that market, due to the fact that the NMP is based on a generation of CPU + infrastructure (chipset, motherboard, etc) that were on the cusp of being replaced when it launched, and then got yet another smackdown from AMD shortly after launching anyway.

I suspect that iPads will continue to outsell macs, and that trend to increase. Most computer users don't even need as much computing power as what is in the newest iPads, after all. Stick a keyboard on an iPad and you have enough for most users right there...
 
The manufacturing cost is low for a company with large enough volume to amortize over, but the cost for modernizing a fab is astronomical. In order to get the costs down, a semico needs to be able to manufacture parts in huge numbers.
Intel still holds a gigantic lead in the x86 market, absolutely crushing AMD in servers but, more importantly, still having a humongous total output. Their setbacks are sizeable but the major threat will come from the competition that is currently barely there.

But I wonder how many out there that are currently using non-Apple Intel powered machines may migrate to Apple powered Apple machines if the computers are that damn good?

It makes perfect sense for Apple to enter the entry level portables with the same OS as their iPhones. Dangers come from three directions - that iPad/Air are good enough for most "casual" Mac users, that Microsoft and Google will release similar ARM based OS for the same niche, and that more energy efficient Intel/AMD appear for the laptop market and the new generations of Intel/AMD for desktops.

This is really turning into a free-for-all.
 
That free-for-all needs to be taken up a few notches in the camera world.

I swear...so many people don't even realize how if it weren't for a special company or two, and a few major releases, and just the right world circumstances that we would still be paying $10K, $15K for barely 4K/60p cameras.
 
Intel still holds a gigantic lead in the x86 market, absolutely crushing AMD in servers but, more importantly, still having a humongous total output. Their setbacks are sizeable but the major threat will come from the competition that is currently barely there.

Well, as I wrote earlier, Intel is definitely not in trouble.

The server and datacenter markets will probably be the last market that AMD will take market from Intel in, mainly due to that industry being a lot more cautious about change. AMD is making inroads in that market though. So is nVidia, for that matter.

In almost every other niche, AMD has been approaching Intel's sales. It's pretty amazing to see -- and it's leading to some real competition again at long last.

It makes perfect sense for Apple to enter the entry level portables with the same OS as their iPhones. Dangers come from three directions - that iPad/Air are good enough for most "casual" Mac users, that Microsoft and Google will release similar ARM based OS for the same niche, and that more energy efficient Intel/AMD appear for the laptop market and the new generations of Intel/AMD for desktops.

For Apple it's probably win-win. Apple probably doesn't care that much about the possibility of having iPad cannibalize its laptop sales. It would be less please if it were Android devices that were eating into its laptop sales, or Surface tablets, I'd expect.

This is really turning into a free-for-all.

Well, more competition is more competition. :)
 
Intel is definitely not in trouble.

Regarding 3 billion out of 75 billion, it's the wrong way of looking at it. This is a blow to Intel not primarily by virtue of losing perhaps 5% of its revenue stream from Apple in a couple years time. It's a blow by virtue of Apple beginning a revolution of mainstream developers coding PC desktop apps for the ARM platform. There's been a chicken/egg scenario for a long time here on ARM vs X86 architecture. Apple is essentially fronting the risk and burden of pushing the desktop software industry to a dual platform X86/ARM coding base.

It's more complicated than that, but let's watch and see additional windows machines move to ARM based platforms in coming years as that becomes more viable. As we know, I think we'll see Adobe, Davinci, MS Office, - and a whole lot more - all supporting ARM/X86 instructions on Win/OS11. Meaning it's not what Intel loses from Apple, it's the down-the-chain loses of more and more manufactures having the option to build non intel based windows PCs.
 
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Lots of focus on Apple Silicone being able to run iPad apps as an advantage. One thing not talked about so much is what this means for the iPad. Let's flip that. It also means that iPad may be able to run native OS X apps like Adobe Creative Sweet, FCP X native, Davinci Resolve down the road. Same architecture. There's more that needs to be worked out on both the software and hardware end, but give it a couple years.

Anandtech has benched the iPad CPU and it's seriously competitive with desktop cpus, just lacking the software. Today, iPad already supports keyboard/mouse. We'll have iPads that you can dock and plug into a 30" monitor and be running native Mac Apps. By 2023-2025 we may see or begin to see a further fusion between the iPad/Macbook lines (despite Apple's current denial of such). Times change.

Just some reflection on the inevitable merger here. Pair this with future foldable displays, modular components, battery improvements etc. and we're going to be looking at a radically different product stack (and take on PCs/Tablets/Mobile Phones) in 10 years time.
 
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