anyone use Litepanels, Zabolight or Socanland 1x1 bi-color led panels?

Harry Lime said:
How about the spectral output of the LED? Has anyone had a problem with gaps?

ARRI LED Lighting Comparison - YouTube


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This test is bogus. The "other LED" shots are not properly white-balanced or color corrected. I'm guessing they did a light grade to highlight their own lighting and one to make the other two look as bad as they do. Probably why they disabled the comments on this video as well. Pretty lame if you ask me.
 
I wouldn't be so quick to assume a company with such a high reputation would knowingly lie to their (potential) customers.
 
I think the point is... tests like these should not be carried out by the lighting company itself but by some objective party who has the time and money to do so. Regardless of Arris place on the market, I still wouldn't take this video on face value. Too many unknowns.
 
traviswears said:
This test is bogus. The "other LED" shots are not properly white-balanced or color corrected. I'm guessing they did a light grade to highlight their own lighting and one to make the other two look as bad as they do. Probably why they disabled the comments on this video as well. Pretty lame if you ask me.
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The idea is NOT to have to "properly white-balanced or color correct" for each light - you set your camera to typical white balance (3.2k or 5.6k) and should get expected results - because usually you use a whole range of lighting instruments in one shot.
 
Patryk_Rebisz said:
LEDs is NEVER a replacement for tungsten unless in special circumstances.

I don't know what you shoot but it seems you still don't know what makes light "soft" - it's the size of the illuminating surface. Your umbrellas produce much softer light that wraps around your talent much more easily than a square of 1x1 LEDs.

(BTW i own 3 LitePanel lights)
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Correct and Incorrect, so that's a "sort of correct".
In fact, it is not only the overall surface area that affects the nature of the illumination and attendant shadows, but also the TYPE of illumination. By TYPE, I'm referring to physics.
- Thus, we know that the 'harshest' sources, producing stark contrasts and sharp-edged shadows is Spectral light. At the extreme end it's the Sun overhead at noon on the longest day of the year and at around the equator on a mountaintop.
- The 'softest' lights are indirect and indeed, cover the largest area possible. At the extreme, the sky (minus the sun itself). Often reproducible as light bounced in a White Hemisphere, and sure, a parabolic umbrella ( mine have 12 ribs) are the cheapest portable simulations.
- A third and often misunderstood type of light is Collimated Light. The most typical is a bank of straight fluorescent tubes or fluorescents formed into any 'flat pattern'. The newest entries in the colimated light arena are.... banks of LED's (arrayed). This third form of illumination does NOT produce the same lighting characteristics as bounced or diffused spectral light. It is a category all it's own and the effects are dissimilar to diffused or reflected light if you compare them by surface area alone.
LED arrays combine the flat characteristics of fluorescent banks with some of the characteristics of spectral illumination.
I worked on the early protos and frankly, am not even impressed with my latest efforts except in very small close up work (as fall-off is dramatic without modulation).
To complicate matters, LED's emanate spectra that are in weird, nonlinear patterns, making balancing and amelioration a challenge.
I use the LED's as effect and accents as well as fills but have always preferred Tungsten and recently, HID for sunlight simulation, both directly as well as bounced and diffused.
EVENTUALLY LED's will evolve to replace incandescents. Certainly the latest emitters I've been fooling around with now have the punch, but the Lumens/Watt simply aren't there yet to complete with garden variety incandescents.:Drogar-Sick(DBG):
My lighting bag has all but the fluorescent lights and I often use them together to light a scene.
 
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Which 1x1 LED Light Panel to choose....

Which 1x1 LED Light Panel to choose....

So, I just wanted to help spread the word on some stuff after reading your comment. The Socanland and Zabolights are exactly the same units. Zabolights buys the Socanland, re-brands them, and marks up the price drastically. That is why all of the LED light models are exactly the same but with a "Zabolight" sticker added on in place of "Socanland".

If your going to buy one 1x1 Light Panel over the other, go with the Socanland! I made the mistake myself and purchased the Zabolight paying almost double. A month later when I was ready to buy another I came across Socanland. I have each now and they are identical. I basically blew a several hundred dollars because I didn't find this out sooner.

I personally love my 1x1 Socanland (Socanland 50CTD, Bi-Color, 50W). Its actually surprisingly bright, built like a tank (aluminum frame, but still light, about 3 pounds), and it lets you attach either an Anton Bauer or V-Mount battery plate at no extra charge. Love the bi-color feature. Love the color temp, looks great on skin tones. They produce absolutely no heat and no flicker. Everything is totally smooth. These lights are definitely bright too. They aren't like your weak 1x1 Bi-Color "Lite Panels" (which are a joke). The 50CTD packs an impressive and surprising punch. I hardly use tungstens anymore, especially on location, and my clients are always more then happy.

I have 3 x Socanland 50CTD now. 1x1 LED's have come a long way. I would highly recommend getting some. I bought the Socanland 50CTD's from a place in Denver, they are called INTELLYTECH and had fantastic service, here is a link: http://www.intellytechusa.com/collections/led-light-panels/products/socanland-50ctd-1x1-bi-color.



joker454 said:
Just curious if anyone has used 1x1 bi-color LED light panels made by either Litepanels, Zabolight or Socanland? I'm using two 500watt umbrella lights right now but the heat from them is just too much when working in a small room, plus I like that the led panels take up much less room. I've been doing research on these and from what I see their light output is:

Zabolight Z1 Bi Color 1'x1' LED Panel Light, 2300 lux @ 4feet
Socanland 50CTD, 1780 lux @ 1m
Litepanels 1x1 bi-color, 1100 lux @ 4feet

I'd be interested to hear if people that have used any of these have been happy with them. Would they be good replacements for umbrella lights or would I have to add a diffuser? These LED panels cost quite a bit hence why I'm hesitant, but the heat from my current umbrellas is starting to become problematic.
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Folks. FORGET the big arrays of 5mm Nichia's. That's what those iddy bitty LED's are called. This is 2005 technology. They are all fancy electronics for nothing light. Just buy some bicolors from ebay if you like the nichia type panels.
 
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