anyone upgrade to Vegas Pro 20?

If like the majority of the remaining Vegas users you are joined at the hip to Vegas and undertake the ritual annual upgrade, your question is irrelevant. Otherwise, I think you know the answer.
 
My view, and I don't think it's isolaated, is that at this stage upgrading to the latest version of Vegas is an emotional rather than a rational decision. Same old. Long time users continue to complain about Vegas' poor performance compared to other NLEs. Magix has had around five year to fix this, but instead it keeps trying to catch up with the competition's features. Then there's the cost. Rather than upgrade, might be time to get off the bus. I was a long-time Vegas user, would be happy to hear contrasting opinions.
 
New_Zealand said:
checking to see if this upgrade is any good?
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I have. Have been a Vegas user since v2.0. It still has its uses in certain situations. The main thing I am seeing is it seems to be more stable than v18,19. Its biggest problem and I don't think this will improve is its lack of real-time full res performance even with a decent CPU and GPU. Its whole code base needs to be rewritten for modern hardware, I think. As good and as intuitive as Vegas Pro is, it is now well and truly outpaced in playback performance by most of the other NLEs out there, especially with later high bit rate 4K files. Even Magix's own Video Pro X tends to outperform Vegas on the same hardware.

Chris Young
 
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I left at version 12 but I don't remember problems with realtime playback performance in 4K XAVC-I from my F55. My recollection was that it was fine. It supported ACEs, Dolby 5.1 surround licensed, audio features were superior, transitions and editing features were very convenient, you could nest timelines and even whole projects (that you had memory for), fine control over color not as good as Resolve. A welcome feature was context sensitive help was always available at a click, not having to roundtrip and search a 4000 page documentation manual. My reason for abandoning Vegas, was that Sony itself was abandoning it. Who gives a flip today about Catalyst Prepare? The annual paid upgrades drove me away as well even before Magix took ownership. We tend to remember how it was, frozen in time in our memories, when computer hardware was slower and far less capable, and software updates frozen at the last version we remember using, but the reality is that progress continued that we never saw or knew because we left. I am glad Magix took control and continued support, but the demise for me happened before they ever did.
 
In some ways all the software companies are the same. Once they develop the software the underlying code remains the same until they decide to abandon it. They might add features, codecs or small bug fixes but if you’re unhappy with anything fundamental, it’s unlikely it will ever be addressed.

Basic editing can be done with anything but as soon as you start relying on templates and effects Premier becomes the defacto standard. You’ll get hit with Adobe subscription… I don’t follow Vegas but seems pretty obvious you pay to upgrade to the latest version if it has feature you need.
 
Tom Roper said:
I left at version 12 but I don't remember problems with realtime playback performance in 4K XAVC-I from my F55.
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This was true and still is to a degree. Sadly though with the addition of much more comprehensive color grading and a number of other editing upgrades, this has all put more demand on the total system hardware resources to the degree that it is starting to impact real-time performance. As I said on the same hardware Resolve is leagues ahead, sad to say.

Look I loved using it and since 2000 my business delivered over 400 sports and entertainment programs to TV networks here and OS with a lot of them cut on the Vegas platform. In the heyday of the 50Mbps 422 MPEG2-based XDCam codec being the broadcast de-facto standard Vegas was the only software that could capture via SDI with Decklink cards directly to that Sony 50Mbps XDCam codec. This kept all our productions 100% XDCam based. We then exported to XDCam discs and these became our deliverables to the networks. With that codec and the Decklink cards, the Vegas systems were great. In fact, I migrated away from Discreet *Edit systems which along with Avid were amongst the best professional editing systems we could buy. Many said I was mad. But while the 422 XDCam codec ruled it was the best workflow move as no other system handled XDCam natively without transcoding. When serious audio multi-layering and sweetening were required both Discreet and Avid were way behind the eight-ball back then. Vegas, having evolved from Sonic Foundry was an incredibly capable multi-track audio editor with sub-frame editing down to samples. No other video NLE came close. But times move on, don't they?

Chris Young
 
Looking at several camcorders for an upgrade. One of them is the canon C200 that also shoot canon raw lite (.RCM files) Is this already supported in vegas pro 20?
or the panasonic EVA1 that shoot 10bit mov files. I read somewhere it was in mov files it recorded. Can this be edited without problems?

I edit in vegas pro 17 and want to stay with this editing program so I prefer a camcorder where i can edit the codecs with inside vegas.
 
BONLEV said:
Looking at several camcorders for an upgrade. One of them is the canon C200 that also shoot canon raw lite (.RCM files) Is this already supported in vegas pro 20?
or the panasonic EVA1 that shoot 10bit mov files. I read somewhere it was in mov files it recorded. Can this be edited without problems?

I edit in vegas pro 17 and want to stay with this editing program so I prefer a camcorder where i can edit the codecs with inside vegas.
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There's zero trouble with EVA1 files in VEGAS. The Panasonic EVA1 tutorials with Barry Green were edited on VEGAS. I think it was 16 at the time.
 
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