Anyone there using Edius 5? Advice needed.

Desertfox

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Hi Edius user guys,

I just got myself an Edius 5 and need some advice as I am currently dumping all my AVCHD .mts files to Edius timeline and then converting it to Canopus HQ for later editing in Premiere Pro CS 4!

Why am I doing that? Because editing native AVCHD .mts files with CS 4 is sluggish on my PC and I have yet to get used to editing with Edius. However, I am satisfied by the picture quality coming out from the codec Canopus lossless, Canopus HQ and Canopus Fine.

Here are my questions:

1) Output: Is there a difference between Canopus HQ and Canopus Fine? Or even lossless (Besides the file size)?

2) Output: Besides converting my AVCHD files using Procoder 3, is it wiser to convert my AVCHD .mts files on the Edius to formats such as XDCAM, DVCPRO HD or HDV and then editing it on Premiere Pro CS 4?

3) What would you do? If let's say you have Edius 5, AVCHD .mts files to transcode and want to edit on Premiere Pro?

I'm looking forward to start editing (low-budget post) and hoping for high quality images, fit for a film fest screening.

Thanks for reading. :)
 
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OK, First if you prefer, you can wait a couple of more days for Edius 5.5 to be out and you can edit the AVCHD files natively if you want. And I mean real editing, not like Premiere's version.

If you still prefer transcodeing, GV has a free AVCHD2HQ converter. Download it from the registered users site. Simply involves a drag and drop conversion after you have the settings to your liking. No need to do it in Procoder.

Canopus Fine is really a setting of HQ. Not a lot of eye noticeable difference between Standard and Fine. Of course Fine will be a larger file size.

If you happen to be coming to NAB, stop by the GV booth and I am sure someone will get you up to speed with Edius. It is very easy and fast once you know where the buttons are.
 
Thanks Edius mate for the tips!

I won't be able to make it to NAB but I think Edius interface looks similar to Avid. I prefer working on the FCP or Premiere interface.

As much as I want to edit it natively (they say picture quality on output looks better), I think it's wise to transcode then edit even if I have a super computer. My experience editing native avchd on Premiere is that sometimes, the video editing screen turns out green when I wanna try edit some 10 out of 100.mts files or so. With Edius 5, I don't have that Green screen problem... that's why I'm transcoding all on it to for NLE and color correcting on Premiere.

Have you tried Cineform? I hear talks about it but not too sure if it makes a difference to picture quality.
 
5.5 is out... The latest update for EDIUS NLE software, version 5.50, is now available as a free download from www.grassvalley.com.

This update contains bug fixes, and is an official localized version.

To download this update, follow this link to log into the Web site and view your list of Desktop Product-related downloads. From there, you should see 'EDIUS v5' from the list (requires registration for it to appear). Choose this product.

Scroll down to the 'Updates' section and the v5.50 update will be there.

Note: This package can only upgrade an existing system. That is, you will need to have installed EDIUS v5.1x software. If you are installing on a fresh system, you will need to first install from your original CD-ROM/DVD-ROM, apply the v5.10 update and then apply this update. You will also need to have your security dongle inserted.

Important Note: This update provides Windows 7 compatibility. Users will need to refer to this guide for directions on how to install EDIUS v5 on Windows 7 systems.

Supported Hardware:
  • IEEE 1394 FireWire controllers
  • ADVC1394, ACEDVio
  • EDIUS NX Series
  • EDIUS SP Series
  • EDIUS RX-E1 (SDI-based hardware)
  • EDIUS Turnkey Systems
  • HDSTORM Series
  • HDSPARK Series
  • HDTHUNDER
New features added in this version (from v5.12)
  • Support to run on Windows 7 (32/64bit). Note: You cannot upgrade your PC to Windows 7 if your editing machine is connected to an EDIUS Workgroup Server (EWGS) SAN system. If the machine is upgraded, your machine won't be able to connect to the SAN, because the EWGS only supports Windows XP-based machines as editing clients. Also, if your machine is a Grass Valley EDIUS turnkey, you cannot upgrade the current OS (Windows XP) to Windows 7, as this will void the warranty

  • AVCHD native editing. EDIUS 5.50 has a new AVCHD engine. By this, you can place an AVCHD clip onto the timeline without the need for conversion to HQ for real-time editing. No optional hardware/software required to get this function. Note: Real-time editing performance will depend on CPU performance. A general performance guide is as follows:
    • Intel Core i7: provides real-time editing with three 1920x1080 streams
    • Intel Core2 Quad: provides real-time editing with one 1920x1080 stream
    • Intel Core2 Duo: provides real-time editing with one 1440x1080 stream

  • Added support for color space of CANON EOS Movie files
Issues fixed in this version (from v5.12)
  • Fixed issue with drastically changing color when loading certain QuickTime movie (H.264) files
  • Fixed issue with lip-sync alignment when converting certain clips that had the frame rate changed
  • Fixed issue with error (access violation) when performing certain operations on Player window
  • Fixed issue with evaluating certain color space when using vectorscope / waveform
  • Fixed issue with region filter where the rendering got cancelled in areas where the filter is not applied
  • Fixed issue with timeline operation when clicking the monitor window while changing the border color in 2D transitions
  • Fixed issue with stopping MPEG conversion while batch exporting
  • Fixed issue with bitrate being set to 0.0 Mbps under certain conditions when using Disc Burner
  • Fixed issue with writing data to BD-R when using Disc Burner with Pioneer BDR-S05
  • Fixed issue with sync alignment of video and audio in certain files imported with K2 Connect
  • Fixed issue with loading certain GXF files with K2 Connect
  • Fixed issue with placing certain files on the timeline when loading MXF files with K2 Connect
  • Fixed issue with access violation when updating overlay
  • Fixed issue with the display settings of the timecode being ignored when outputting MXF files via XRE
Click here to view the readme for EDIUS v5.50.
 
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