anyone else looking forward to Motion?

Re: anyone else looking forward to Motion?

;) I'd say i'm "looking forward" to it to see what apple's come up with. I don't think it will eat too much into the After Effects/Combustion market because from what I've read, it's primarily a "motion graphics" program, vs a compositing system. Granted that's on purpose because they want to push Shake as their compositor. I'm anxious to see what they have to offer with Motion.
 
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i'm not a huge after effects fan personally although i do seem to use it often.

i've always felt that NLE's should have more appropriate integration of things like this, i hope it does what it says it will.
 
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For the price tag, I don't expect anything very pro. It would probably be a do it yourself animation program just like Garageband is for music. But I'm certainly curious!
 
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[quote author=taubkin link=board=FCP;num=1082401524;start=0#3 date=04/20/04 at 06:59:45]For the price tag, I don't expect anything very pro. It would probably be a do it yourself animation program just like Garageband is for music. But I'm certainly curious![/quote]

I'm not so sure. Lately, Apple has packed a lot of cool features in inexpensive programs like:
Final Cut Express
Keynote
Not to mention the "free" ones: iMovie, iTunes, iPhoto, GarageBand.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a pretty good program that is missing one or two critial features, like iMovie 1.0 that only had one audio track or GarageBand which doesn't do MIDI (do a Google search for a free program called "Dent Du Midi" to correct for this). My point is that Motion 1.2 or 2.0 WILL be a great program. Apple figures, hey we'll come at Afte rEffects from both ends - the cheap end (Motion) and the top end (Shake). Look what happened to Premiere for Mac. iMovie at the low end and FCP at the high end put enough of a strain on Premiere that it was canned very soon after the release of FCE. I fear this will happen to After Effects (especially since Motion accepts After Effects plug ins).

I hope this won't happen, but fear that it will.
 
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Tis true... apple is COMPLETELY on the ball of late in their releases and product positioning... Genius is the word that comes to my mind.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Apple fan, but I have my doubts about Motion. I saw a demo at NAB which showed very little & left a lot of unanswered questions--masking abilities? motion paths? Although I like the idea of "behaviors" as a replacement to keyframes, it doesn't seem like there's much in the way of user control.

For $299, it's worth it alone for small, quick projects that would take 10x as long if you did them in AE. But it certainly isn't a replacement for AE, and i don't think Apple is positing it as one.
 
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i honestly don't see motion in comparison to after effects.  i see it as a complement to fcp's compositing/motion abilities thus making fcp a much more powerful all in one solution in the likes of livetype, cinema tools, soundtrack, and now motion. kudos to apple for making fcp that much better.
 
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Something also to keep in mind is that with Motion and even Livetype now, you no longer have to export video clips from FCP to go to Livetype or Motion with them. And also, once you design your work in Motion or Livetype you no longer render out. Just open the Livetype project file and it will be imported into FCP. Then you render it out there. Cuts down on a lot of time. So now you can go back and forth between the programs to adjust things a lot faster. You do have to update all the apps to take advantage of this option. But all of the HD upgrades are free for FCP 4 users.

Just my price!!!
 
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"Something also to keep in mind is that with Motion and even Livetype now, you no longer have to export video clips from FCP to  go to Livetype or Motion with them"

Good point J.T.  "Motion" will be an excellent tool, and it really helps to round out Apple's multimedia tools.  Their output over the past few years has been amazing.

Getting FCP HD as a free upgrade is nice, but it certainly isn't the deal that convinces people to finally switch to HD.  You may save a few hundred bones for software, but you still have the camera/deck/peripherals that will still run you a good $60-100k.

This is pure speculation, but my guess is that FCP HD was released because Panny's planning on releasing a 3-CCD HD prosumer cam (probably a DVX-100 HD type of deal) in the very near future.  The Apple guys doing the demo at NAB kept stressing their collaboration with Panasonic, and I'm sure they want to put something out to compete with the Sony HD camcorder that's in prototype phase now (they only had photos of it at NAB, so apparently there's still work to do.)
 
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Motion is a very nice motion graphics tool for Mac. IMHO, the best part of it is that it gives realtime feedback based on the graphics card you use. Finally, a motion graphics program that fully supports hardware acceleration! :)

It will not be a competitor to the likes of AE, Combustion, or Apple's own Shake. It does not compositing whatsoever save for the ability to "layer" elements as in photoshop. Of course, the program uses the embedded alpha channels (if present) for media, and you can also create masks. It has a nice (albeit very simple) particle tool as well.

This is a very nice tool, but AE (or other compositing) users should not even consider switching to Motion unless you don't use these other programs for anything but simple titles.

The fact is, Apple is amazing at marketting, so they should have no problem targetting the right audience for this product.
 
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