Anybody using the HV30 for a B cam?

Brad_C

Brad_C

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I've got a wedding coming up pretty soon and I'm going to have to use an HV30 for my B cam. It's a friends camera so I haven't a chance to play around with it too much. If anybody has any scene file settings that are matched up pretty close to an HV setting, I would appreciate it if you shared.

Also, does the 24p footage from both cams match up fairly well? Any other advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
I've matched the two and if there's a lot of light then the HV20/30 should do fine. Its a terrible low-light camera though and it does have quite a lot of noise in the image too. For matching, you will probably need to add some color to the HV30 to make it match.. and I'd also suggest that you do manual white balances.
 
Just finish reading the post about the inability of using this camera even at 30-40F, basically the focus ring won't work, and Panasonic refused to acknowledge and fix this problem. I was thinking to bring this camera with me when I see my parents in winter. Too ad, it won't operate!

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=152696&page=15

My next camera won't be Panasonic!
 
Ditto what Justyn said.

I've only done two weddings with the 150/HV30 combo, and overall they look decent together. But both weddings had plenty of light.
 
Shot a wedding with the HV20 as a wide. Matches up fine with a bump in saturation and a bit of primary grading. I shot using scene file 4.

It comes out flat compared to the HMC150 (which is a good thing). Add a bit of saturation and it matches well. I wouldn't bother with custom scene files, primary grade it using your NLE instead. I had to actually "ugly" the HMC150 just a bit to match between an FX1, HV20, and the 150 due to the sony being so freakin cold with WB on the sunlight setting. I've gotten VERY good at fixing WB issues in post due to always having to match my old A1 with FX1 footage. Couldn't tell they were from different brands.

Didn't use 24p as the FX1 only had 1080i/60. Would have loved to though.
 
Would 24p work well together? I would like to use 720p on the HMC150 for using 24p/60p. I want to use 60 for some overcranking shots. So on the timeline would be 1080/24p, 720/24p, and 720/60p.

All I would use the HV for is a wide shot during the ceremony. After that, the cam would be done. I don't really want to tweak like crazy because I'm more comfortable in post. Give me a couple of flat gamma's and I'd be good to go. Would the "cine" modes in both cams be pretty close?
 
lifepo4 said:
Just finish reading the post about the inability of using this camera even at 30-40F, basically the focus ring won't work, and Panasonic refused to acknowledge and fix this problem. I was thinking to bring this camera with me when I see my parents in winter. Too ad, it won't operate!

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=152696&page=15

My next camera won't be Panasonic!
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I used the HMC in the middle of the winter on NYC streets when I first noticed this problem. It really wasn't too bad. Not Like it stoped working all together but more like it just got stiffer and harder to turn as it got colder. I put it back in the case between locations and it seemed to warm it up enough to work properly again.

Too me this issue isn't really a reason to not shoot something. Maybe a little more of a challange if anything.
 
zeroblank said:
I used the HMC in the middle of the winter on NYC streets when I first noticed this problem. It really wasn't too bad. Not Like it stoped working all together but more like it just got stiffer and harder to turn as it got colder. I put it back in the case between locations and it seemed to warm it up enough to work properly again.

Too me this issue isn't really a reason to not shoot something. Maybe a little more of a challange if anything.
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How do you pull a rack focus if it takes a lot of effort to "loosen" the ring?
 
lifepo4 said:
Just finish reading the post about the inability of using this camera even at 30-40F, basically the focus ring won't work, and Panasonic refused to acknowledge and fix this problem. I was thinking to bring this camera with me when I see my parents in winter. Too ad, it won't operate!

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=152696&page=15

My next camera won't be Panasonic!
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Sorry but this has nothing to do with this thread. :violin:
 
Sorry, I have gone too far!

I have a SONY HDR-HC3, it does NOT have many manual control. Are there anyone ever used this and combine with HMC150? When I compare the same video to 150, the color was washed out! I will upload video later!
 
Norman. IT's okay to vent.. and it is a bummer for sure. I don't think this problem existed on the old HVX.. and for myself... I don't think I'll be shooting in the cold anytime soon being here in FLorida.. but If I had taken the cam to Utah in February to shoot and it didn't work.. well then I'd be pissed.


here's a possible workaround for this. What about using a zoom and focus/iris controller? I have one.
 
Can anyone evaluate my SONY HDR-HC3 video? It is too much hassle to ajust it manually (not many manual adjustment anyway) so I taped the videos in Easy Mode. Video appear a little over exposed. I think HC3 is close to HV20/HV30 in terms of performance, slightly less sharp . Of course, HV20/30 have more manual control, 24fps, 30fps and rated as the best HDV consumer camcorder.

http://www.vimeo.com/4522797

Once I get my HMC150 back, I will evaluate the lubrication under cold temperature and post the video here!
 
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Regarding the issue at hand, when shooting with both the HMC150 and the HV30, I just use scene file 1 for the HMC150, shutter priority mode for the HV30, and set the shutter speed for each camera to 1/60, and I prefer to manually white balance each. When outside, the daylight preset on the HMC and the auto white balance on the HV30 (Auto WB on the HV30 works surprisingly well) will work if you get caught off guard, but manual is more dependable. They seem to blend pretty well when the lighting is reasonable, especially when the distance between the subject varies between shots.

lifepo4 said:
Just finish reading the post about the inability of using this camera even at 30-40F,
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If it helps, I just took the HMC150 to Yellowstone for 3 days and shot in mainly sub 40 degree, and sometimes sub 30 degree temps. The focus ring may have stiffened just a tad (I was thinking about that thread when shooting), but still worked fine. I could have pulled a rack focus. Your camera may work just fine in the temps you are talking about. But I agree, this shouldn't even be an issue to begin with and needs to be addressed by Panasonic. I'd be ticked if I lived in a sub freezing climate.


lifepo4 said:
Can anyone evaluate my SONY HDR-HC3 video?
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It does look like it might be a tad overexposed, especially in the 3rd shot, but none are too bad (not to my eyes anyway). This is the raw footage, with no levels adustments, correct? You can drop the footage on a timeline in After Effects or your NLE and look at a histogram (Vegas or Premiere) as well, that's a better way to tell if you've overexposed.
 
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