Anybody else get furloughed from their job due to Coronavirus?
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Barry_Green
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Why are people stockpiling toilet paper and water? Probably because we've always been told that in a long term emergency, the currency that will always be accepted is stuff like water, tp, booze, chocolate, etc.
Is it practical? Probably not. Is it relevant to the current crisis? Definitely not. But scared people react, and it appears that everyone has heard that you can't find tp anywhere, so they stock up whenever they see it, and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Wait until people figure out that the banks don't actually keep any cash on hand. A run on the bank isn't pretty, and it's basically the same type of situation as the current toilet paper situation.
Is it practical? Probably not. Is it relevant to the current crisis? Definitely not. But scared people react, and it appears that everyone has heard that you can't find tp anywhere, so they stock up whenever they see it, and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Wait until people figure out that the banks don't actually keep any cash on hand. A run on the bank isn't pretty, and it's basically the same type of situation as the current toilet paper situation.
Yeah, all the meats, eggs, and breads were cleaned out at the local Walmart. Oddly enough the fresh veggies and fruits went untouched. Says something about the typical southern diet.
Run&Gun
Veteran
Yep, we're a largely cashless society, now. I used to make fun of some of the people I worked with in the past(and one of my friends wife), because they never had any cash on them. Now, there are times where I'll go weeks without a single dollar bill in my wallet, too(until it's time to go to the barbershop: old school, cash only). I think it's largely because I don't travel nearly as much as I used to and needed cash on hand for things like tipping valets at the hotel or restaurant or if there was a minor emergency and something happened to my credit card or debit card.
Run&Gun
Veteran
One of my buddies semi-joked that there were plenty of rutabagas at the grocery store yesterday. No potatoes, but plenty of rutabagas.
combatentropy
Veteran
I'm doubting whether it's because of a bunch of crazies buying tons of toilet paper.
What if most people are like, "I'm just going to buy one extra package of toilet paper, and I am going to buy it this week" (instead of the week that they normally would). And their reasoning is, "The hoarders have come! If I wait until my normal buying time, it will be out of stock!"
There are a lot of people who shop at your grocery store. Grocery stores are not stocked 10 times their capacity. It's cheaper for a company to normally have just enough inventory, maybe a little more. I mean, that's what Lean Manufacturing was all about.
When you go to the store and see all the empty shelves, it feels like everyone is buying several months' worth of food and supplies. But really maybe all it takes to clear shelves is for everyone to buy just a little more, all at the same time.
Just a conjecture. I think I have seen a photo of crazies with shopping carts full of toilet paper. But apparently not a single one of you did that. None of my coworkers did, nor any of my friends on Facebook. Everyone says how crazy it is.
What if most people are like, "I'm just going to buy one extra package of toilet paper, and I am going to buy it this week" (instead of the week that they normally would). And their reasoning is, "The hoarders have come! If I wait until my normal buying time, it will be out of stock!"
There are a lot of people who shop at your grocery store. Grocery stores are not stocked 10 times their capacity. It's cheaper for a company to normally have just enough inventory, maybe a little more. I mean, that's what Lean Manufacturing was all about.
When you go to the store and see all the empty shelves, it feels like everyone is buying several months' worth of food and supplies. But really maybe all it takes to clear shelves is for everyone to buy just a little more, all at the same time.
Just a conjecture. I think I have seen a photo of crazies with shopping carts full of toilet paper. But apparently not a single one of you did that. None of my coworkers did, nor any of my friends on Facebook. Everyone says how crazy it is.
Run&Gun
Veteran
I can say 100% factually that I didn’t. I haven’t bought toilet paper in probably six months. I do some of my shopping at Sam’s, where everything is sold in-bulk and you can’t buy “less”. I bought one pack, like normal. I didn’t disrupt the regular buying/stocking patterns. But you’re possibly right, since everyone runs such lean inventory, with the presumption that nothing will ever disrupt the modern, lean, “efficient” supply chain, that all it would take is each person just buying a few more items than normal to overwhelm it(especially if they’re already running at max capacity). And then when people see that items are gone that they wanted, panic sets in, so when they are re-stocked they buy even more than they would have initially, clearing the shelves of stock even faster and on and on. As has been said, the more advanced a society is, the more fragile it is. And this is a good example. Over the years the manufacturers, distributors and stores have figured out how to run as “efficiently” as possible(as little ‘back stock’ sitting as possible), but this leaves very little room for any disruption or variation in their plans, as we usually see during any type of other natural disasters(usually several times a year), like hurricanes or snow storms here in the south(gotta buy milk and bread).
Mike Krumlauf
Award Winning Filmmaker
I promise you its not just the south doing that. I went to my local wal mart here in the denver area yesterday and same thing. This is from one of the "healtiest" states in the country. Everyone is doing it. They are buying up **** they know wont spoil.. granted eggs, bread, and milk do, but i digress. lol
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
We just had a meeting here at USPS HQ.
We are down one producer/director whom we fired and have just started interviewing replacements.
I got everyone on GoToMyPC so that we can remote in to the work ImacPros and get files of of the SAN if we need them.
Going to a 2 producer at HQ rotation during the week so that everyone can work from home at least part of the week.
Our annual forum got cancelled, so that workload is gone, but I have other small projects, broll organization and have to study for my Part 107 restest.
We are down one producer/director whom we fired and have just started interviewing replacements.
I got everyone on GoToMyPC so that we can remote in to the work ImacPros and get files of of the SAN if we need them.
Going to a 2 producer at HQ rotation during the week so that everyone can work from home at least part of the week.
Our annual forum got cancelled, so that workload is gone, but I have other small projects, broll organization and have to study for my Part 107 restest.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
You're so lucky to still be working. I've been talking to most of my colleagues this week. Those with small production companies are laying off staff this week, all of the freelancers in my network are freaking the hell out because there is literally no production work, no unemployment.
I'm seeing what I can book before the end of the month with some alternative media ideas I have that are still needed even during the Apocalypse but if I don't book anything by months end, I am putting on my employee hat and going to apply to UPS, FedEx, Amazon or any other
societal needs that are thriving during this craziness. Even though I am a white collar worker, I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty and use my back, my Dad was a plumber and I have dug ditches and carried cast iron tubs up narrow stairways.
Any kind of work is better than sitting around watching all of your life get repossessed or taken away.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
True that.
Working for the .Gov in times like these does have it's benefits.
Working for the .Gov in times like these does have it's benefits.
rob norton
Veteran
Maybe dvxuser has some cash reserves it can distribute to its loyal members?
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Guest
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Lol. Or BH, for all the free advertising we give them with posted links.
LOL. This is serious - a lot of people will find themselves broke, busted, bankrupt and unemployed. That's no laughing matter. It's tragic. But that's not all, for a considerable segment of the population, it is much, much worse on a purely psychological plane, because: a lot of empty tough talk spouting has died a painful death in this pandemic. Like they said about foxholes. When the sh|t hits the fan in a serious way, all of a sudden all those eyes in foxholes turn skyward. Same here, brave keyboard warriors, and posturing pontificators who are so self-dependent and want to get x, y, and z off their backs, all of a sudden discover, that yes, Virginia, civilization is definitely preferable to the law of the jungle, and no, you are not nearly as self-dependent as you think - the big bad social organization is the only force you can depend upon when things get real. That lesson will probably last for some time after this pandemic burns out, but then the tough talk will return... only to be chased out again, when the inevitable next pandemic strikes.
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Where did I laugh?
Eric Coughlin
Veteran
He wasn't suggesting you laughed online. He was suggesting you laughed at your computer but didn't mention it on DVXuser. And just when you thought you'd gotten away with it.
What, you haven't been cashing your B&H checks each time you put a link to B&H on DVXuser? How do you think I ever could have possibly afforded three Amiras?
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You didn't, but that doesn't mean there aren't those who do. I've seen it myself (or rather heard, while talking on the phone). Many people adamantly don't want to face reality. It makes me sad. But part of getting older - for me - is that I've stopped arguing with people... it's no use. They'll either learn from painful experience, or they'll keep walking into walls, nothing I can do about that. I wish everybody the best, everyone who lost their means of making a living, and I hope for a world where this does not mean utter destruction. I truly hope we're learning some lessons from this tragedy. YMMV.
First, my sympathy and prayers go out to everyone who has lost or is losing their income. That is very painful and overwhelming. I hope all of you can find alternative sources of income soon. On a similar note, if you have streaming hardware, knowledge and expertise there may be some businesses, smaller sized churches etc that have not previously needed video work, but are now scrambling to adapt quickly (Blackmagic Design Atem mini is out of stock everywhere). A person could run a local ad for consulting/ training for live streaming or provide the service until the hardware came back in stock. Hopefully some better ideas will be shared so we can find "where they moved the cheese." I have not done video production for a few years as I am now a full time pastor. If you are going through a tuff time and would like me to pray for you, just send me a pm.