Any some more new lenses hitting the market!

though lenses are old news and have been announced a while ago and are super over priced. Also the specs are NOT 14-300 its 14.5mm - 30mm and 60mm-300mm Meaning you have to buy both lenses just to get useful matching range. I still like Schneider glass and always will hold those much higher in quality to canon.
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LeavingTheCandy said:
Only a fool would put out a $40K+ lens without PL mount.
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Not only that, but at those sizes and weights, the Canon mount is simply NOT able to handle that kind of weight. PL is a much more solid mount. I dont get whats up with Canon, they really just went off the deep end...

I know this much, this is a lens that will be for people who dont know any better about lenses. I'm sorry but if you're priced around the same class as great Angenieux lenses, but dont have a PL mount and dont have a name as a serious cinema lens maker... well then you're just kidding yourself.

I can't imagine anyone who knows about quality lenses to pick these canon mount canon zooms over a good Angenieux lens that is of the same price and rental price.
 
FilmDude said:
Not only that, but at those sizes and weights, the Canon mount is simply NOT able to handle that kind of weight. PL is a much more solid mount. I dont get whats up with Canon, they really just went off the deep end...
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Have you ever seen wildlife photographers, or the kind of paparazzi that follow the Royal family around? You'll be surprised at the size and weight of lenses that can be safely attached to an EF mount.
 
Two things. The Canon lenses come in either Canon or PL Mount for the large zooms. The Prime lenses are only available in the Canon EF mount, at least for now, my Canon rep tells me. My wife and I also run a photography business, well she is the photographer and I do all the lighting and some shooting. We have some pretty big lenses, such as 400 and 600mm stuff, both Nikon and Canon, we use for sports and wildlife. Those lenses are not light, not as heavy as a 24-290 Optimo but still fairly heavy. Just as we support our cine-lenses with brackets and rods, you have to support the still lenses too. Most of the time the tripod or mono pod mount is just moved up under the lens instead of under the camera. So yes those mounts will take the weight, but needs support as well.

I am looking at the 30-105 that Canon is releasing later this year. It will in a PL mount though. Just waiting to rent it from Canon to see if I like it.

FilmDude, I do like the idea of the new Schneider's, I have always liked the look of their lenses I just hope the mechanics are good, that was the problem with their PL primes, nice image bad mechanics. They fixed the mechanics with the version 3 primes, but they raised the price too much for me to buy them. If I am spending that kind of money I will buy some Cooke's or the new Lecias.
 
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simonpwood said:
Have you ever seen wildlife photographers, or the kind of paparazzi that follow the Royal family around? You'll be surprised at the size and weight of lenses that can be safely attached to an EF mount.
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I owned a 600mm nikon, I know how the lenses are, but you must understand that a PHOTO camera is VERY light compared to an F3 or RED scarlet/Epic, Alexa, ect.. ect.. When I shot wildlife stills my lens was attached to the tripod and the Nikon F5 that I had was just dangling by the end of the mount. Thats fine, but again that photo camera weighs nothing compared to a cinema body.

I'm not saying you shouldn't use lens support, im saying that even with lens support, a standard canon or nikon mount is very weak in comparison to a PL mount. Also, I've used very large lenses, including a lens I rent very often with is an Arri Alura 45-250 T2.6. Its a beast and even with a PL mount with full support on my F3 body, I felt like I was maxing out what the F3 PL mount could handle. When in support mode, there is still stress applied to the lens and body, specially when you're mounting the lens and adding the support. I used the best 19mm rod system from Arri and it still felt like there was a lot of stress when leveling out the camera with the lens.

When you have a large rig, its the mounting and assuring proper alignment with both lens and body that is the dangerous part. Anything thats long and weighs 20lbs hanging off the front of something else is a risk of breaking when the only thing holding it is a thin piece of metal sleeved inside the other.


I'm very used to big lenses, and have mounted on both RED MX, F3, Scarlet, and Alexa, and they are all PL mount.

The argument is a moot point now, because someone pointed out they also do PL mount, yet I can't find these lens with photos of them with a PL mount on them......


Either way, there's a reason why the PL mount is what it is. Its thicker, stronger, and more secure than any nikon or canon mount. Big flat steel or aircraft aluminum PL mounts have lots of strength.
 
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