Steve Shovlar
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Love the slo-mo effect.
Love the slo-mo effect.
Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
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J.R. Hudson
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Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
That was a great video; killer song, cute chick (something about chicks that rock) and it looked great; nice job from the DP/Director!
That was a great video; killer song, cute chick (something about chicks that rock) and it looked great; nice job from the DP/Director!
Nate Weaver
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Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
Thanks!
Thanks!
chi_red
Well-known member
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
amazing!
hey Nate,
Could you share some information on color correction and camera setting?
What kind of lighting? Any colored Filters?
did you use magic bullet or just built in color corretion on whatever NLE program you have.
Did you shoot everything 60i with cinegamma tone ON?
once again, great job.
amazing!
hey Nate,
Could you share some information on color correction and camera setting?
What kind of lighting? Any colored Filters?
did you use magic bullet or just built in color corretion on whatever NLE program you have.
Did you shoot everything 60i with cinegamma tone ON?
once again, great job.
Zig_Zigman
Well-known member
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
Dude u rock.
Did you shoot 60i and deinterlace in post, or in one of the cinegamma settings?
Dude u rock.
Did you shoot 60i and deinterlace in post, or in one of the cinegamma settings?
Nate Weaver
Veteran
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
All the slow motion shots were shot in 30i, and all the performance was shot in CF30. Everything was shot clean, no filters. Cinematone was on.
Slow motion came from slowing down to 40% in After Effects in a 23.98 comp. At that speed every field becomes a frame.
There was no Magic Bullet used, all color correction came from the 3-Way color corrector in FCP.
Only the band performance was lit, using a 1.2K HMI PAR as a kicker from the back frame left, and 2 4-bank Kinos as either key or fill, depending on the situation. We shot performance at the end of the day as light was leaving us, so the instruments did very little on the first setups and much more on the last.
All the slow motion shots were shot in 30i, and all the performance was shot in CF30. Everything was shot clean, no filters. Cinematone was on.
Slow motion came from slowing down to 40% in After Effects in a 23.98 comp. At that speed every field becomes a frame.
There was no Magic Bullet used, all color correction came from the 3-Way color corrector in FCP.
Only the band performance was lit, using a 1.2K HMI PAR as a kicker from the back frame left, and 2 4-bank Kinos as either key or fill, depending on the situation. We shot performance at the end of the day as light was leaving us, so the instruments did very little on the first setups and much more on the last.
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
[quote author=Nate Weaver link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#6 date=02/02/05 at 15:47:29]Slow motion came from slowing down to 40% in After Effects in a 23.98 comp. At that speed every field becomes a frame.
[/quote]
It's not clean frames though ... it still has interlaced lines in it.
His trick didn't really cleanly seperate the fields, although his idea is perfectly possible !
I just did a test with clean fields seperation from FX1 footage. No interlacing at all in this test.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/slow.wmvx
Download the link and take out the x at the end to play.
Frank
[quote author=Nate Weaver link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#6 date=02/02/05 at 15:47:29]Slow motion came from slowing down to 40% in After Effects in a 23.98 comp. At that speed every field becomes a frame.
[/quote]
It's not clean frames though ... it still has interlaced lines in it.
His trick didn't really cleanly seperate the fields, although his idea is perfectly possible !
I just did a test with clean fields seperation from FX1 footage. No interlacing at all in this test.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/slow.wmvx
Download the link and take out the x at the end to play.
Frank
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
Hello !
The interlacing is probably because you didn't set your project settings correctly. It's 29.97 progressive. Not 24 or 30
It's cleen full frames all over EXCEPT for the very first 13 frames, did a little mistake there. For the rest it's all clean.
Frank
Hello !
The interlacing is probably because you didn't set your project settings correctly. It's 29.97 progressive. Not 24 or 30
It's cleen full frames all over EXCEPT for the very first 13 frames, did a little mistake there. For the rest it's all clean.
Frank
Nate Weaver
Veteran
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
[quote author=chalbers link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#7 date=02/02/05 at 23:55:21]
It's not clean frames though ... it still has interlaced lines in it.
His trick didn't really cleanly seperate the fields, although his idea is perfectly possible !
I just did a test with clean fields seperation from FX1 footage. No interlacing at all in this test.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/slow.wmvx
Download the link and take out the x at the end to play.
Frank
[/quote]
There's interlaced frames because you're seeing the 2-3 pulldown added AFTER the slowdown. I downconverted AND slowed down the HDV footage in a 720x480, 23.98 After Effects comp, and THEN added pulldown in the output so I could edit it cleanly with the CF30 footage.
The video you see on the web will have the 3 frame clear, 2 frame interlaced sequence in all the slow motion sections, and non-interlaced frames for all the performance.
Trust me, the footage has been processed so much nothing remains of the original fields.
[quote author=chalbers link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#7 date=02/02/05 at 23:55:21]
It's not clean frames though ... it still has interlaced lines in it.
His trick didn't really cleanly seperate the fields, although his idea is perfectly possible !
I just did a test with clean fields seperation from FX1 footage. No interlacing at all in this test.
http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/slow.wmvx
Download the link and take out the x at the end to play.
Frank
[/quote]
There's interlaced frames because you're seeing the 2-3 pulldown added AFTER the slowdown. I downconverted AND slowed down the HDV footage in a 720x480, 23.98 After Effects comp, and THEN added pulldown in the output so I could edit it cleanly with the CF30 footage.
The video you see on the web will have the 3 frame clear, 2 frame interlaced sequence in all the slow motion sections, and non-interlaced frames for all the performance.
Trust me, the footage has been processed so much nothing remains of the original fields.
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
[quote author=bjingbar link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#8 date=02/03/05 at 02:11:40]Nice clean slo-mo Frank, what the secret
Bob[/quote]
No secret , just the same idea Nate used. Use each field as a frame . That slows down all of it by 50 %. If you us it as 24fr/sec you get a 40% slowmo
Frank
[quote author=bjingbar link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#8 date=02/03/05 at 02:11:40]Nice clean slo-mo Frank, what the secret
Bob[/quote]
No secret , just the same idea Nate used. Use each field as a frame . That slows down all of it by 50 %. If you us it as 24fr/sec you get a 40% slowmo
Frank
DVX100Shooter
Veteran
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
Whats up with the artifacting in the shots of the girl running? You will see what I mean if you pause the video when she is running. You see lines. I noticed while the video was playing as well.
Whats up with the artifacting in the shots of the girl running? You will see what I mean if you pause the video when she is running. You see lines. I noticed while the video was playing as well.
princigalli
Well-known member
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
second music video I see shot on the FX1, and in both cases the video ends with the death of the band members. Is his an obligated part of music story telling? I think it has to do with the exasperation of the band having to deal with problems caused by interlaced cameras.
second music video I see shot on the FX1, and in both cases the video ends with the death of the band members. Is his an obligated part of music story telling? I think it has to do with the exasperation of the band having to deal with problems caused by interlaced cameras.
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
[quote author=DVX100Shooter link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#14 date=02/05/05 at 22:47:57]Whats up with the artifacting in the shots of the girl running? You will see what I mean if you pause the video when she is running. You see lines. I noticed while the video was playing as well. [/quote]
Hello !
Go up a few messages in this thread and it explains it all ...
Frank
[quote author=DVX100Shooter link=board=sony;num=1107205237;start=0#14 date=02/05/05 at 22:47:57]Whats up with the artifacting in the shots of the girl running? You will see what I mean if you pause the video when she is running. You see lines. I noticed while the video was playing as well. [/quote]
Hello !
Go up a few messages in this thread and it explains it all ...
Frank
princigalli
Well-known member
Re: Another music vid shot with 2 FX1's
cf25 is very nice. it works well for me at least. What doesn't work for me at all is filming subjects under the sun. Perts if the face are in shadow, the rest are burned. On the FX1 this seems to be a serious problem, in the same conditions that were OK for my VX2000. I'm not really sure what I can do about it.
cf25 is very nice. it works well for me at least. What doesn't work for me at all is filming subjects under the sun. Perts if the face are in shadow, the rest are burned. On the FX1 this seems to be a serious problem, in the same conditions that were OK for my VX2000. I'm not really sure what I can do about it.