Anamorphic on the F3

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I just shot some tests with the camera (round front lomos vs zeiss superspeeds). And in terms of camera resolution, the anamorphics are looking pretty good. With some sharpening applied in post, it's hard to spot the difference against spherical.

I might post the some screenshots later.
 
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Yess, this is exactly what I wanted to see. I have been very interested in going anamorphic with my F3, would love to see your results!
 

So my conclusion right now is that with decent anamorphic lenses, the loss of resolution would not be a big deal. Now, lomos are not the sharpest lenses out there, so I'll be carefull.
 
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Nice ... I saw Anamorphic vs spherical. 50mm and 100mm test as well. If you have footage of people can you post?
 
it all looks very acceptable, at 720p i see no resolution loss what so ever, ive yet to view in full 1080 though. whats your workflow for these shots to get post ana right ? you might be swaying me to spend a lot of money on some new anamorphic glass
 
Just curious, what are you guys trying to gain by shooting anamorphic. Your not getting less grain, not an issue with digital. Your not gaining sharpness, unless the sensor is 4:3. Depth of field is more like a wide lens. Whats the draw for digital?
 
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The looks, the bokeh, image rendition, flares, color.. That's all. Oh wait, that's everything :P
 
So the squeezed bokeh and flares. Seems be it. (in Digital)
Color would irrelevant, your going to CC for sure if your going the extra mile. Less depth of field, harder focus pulls? You have to have a 45mm to be 25mm. No special lens. You loose more on the sides with 16:9 no vertical gain etc. Loss of detail vs spherical lenses. Would be more justified, if shooting film, on a proper gate.

I know about the famous flares and bokeh, but seems like a very hard sell to me in this "cheaper is better" mentality of today's Producers. But hey, if you can sell them on it go for it.
 
Personally, I like the compositional element (ie 35mm is 14.5mm in it horizontal & 35mm in it's vertical) - so it's often a framing & look thing as well (although, as you note, most of this is negated by side cropping to get to 2:35/40:1).

It's not just the elliptical bokeh and the horizontal flares (although the ana flares are being so overdone at the moment... I'm bored of seeing them added to footage where they're just a style thing... so many recent pop videos and commercials are doing it, especially over here in the UK) - but also the coatings and 'feel' of the lenses are a big part of the look. Yes, we grade/CC all the time now, but a lot of the sharp digital edge can be mitigated (if you want to!) by using these lenses and the way they flare/react to light often gives a very cinematic vibe.

Anamorphics just feel more organic to my eyes and IMO, help take the digital edge off footage (before any post work is done)... but it all depends on the production :)

http://www.vimeo.com/26783634 - here's something shot recently on Lomo Anas and Epic (presume they used the 5K ana mode - as I don't know if others are enabled in the current beta firmware)... annoyingly, they look to have added more of the lens flare in post (arghh - probably the client wanting more - who knows?), but it's interesting in a compositional way.
 
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F3 cropped to 2.4:1 --> 1.57 Mpx
F3 with anamorphic lenses --> aprox 1.38 Mpx

So not that far away.
However anamorphic lenses won't offer the same resolution at the same given Tstop compared to sphericals ...
 
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TimurCivan said:
Your Lomos are FAR sharper than my Lomo......

Foton 37-140 F3.5 Square Front - F3

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Nice, and strange. Your wide looks great, and your tele lens on the close end is nice but it seems anything decently far away can never get really sharp focus.
 
It's not just the bokeh and flares, anamorphics have a different look even without those. Go to Youtube and check out the trailers for Blood Diamond and Black Hawk Down, and check out the scenes that are similar (mostly the outdoor stuff). Blood Diamond was shot with anamorphics and Black Hawk Down was spherical. Both look amazing, with great lighting, production, etc., but they look different, and it has nothing to do with flares or oblong highlights. I don't know what it is exactly, but anamorphic lenses always have more of an "epic" feel to them than cropped spherical lenses.
 
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