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And Disney calls the law suit meritless. Her agents must be pretty mad to want to do this, as the power is shifting from the middle men back to the studios. And the contract over the marketing strategy must have given the studio a lot of leeway. Like 100%.

Of course, Black Widow's box office numbers dropped drastically after a pretty decent opening weekend. The IMDB reviews are OK (6.9 stars), the Rotten Tomatoes are better (audience 92%). So, there's got to be someone to blame.
 
Meanwhile, the TV business is suffering to no end too. NBC's Olympics are down 50+% and, last week, Fox News Channel had a larger prime time audience than Fox Broadcasting (Fox broadcasting is owned by Disney now) with Tucker Carlson breaking into the Top 20. Of all shows! Granted, it's summer but there's going to be some major bloodletting among the broadcasters and a major realignment of what one sees and hears.
 
ahalpert said:
Why? Because of streaming and YouTube?
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It's one of those "if anyone knew" topics. I've mentioned in a sports related thread than the NFL 2021 Superbowl ratings were down about 20% despite the marquee QB match-up. The demographic audience that's being lost there is the under-29 group.

I'd speculate that the next several years will see a huge realignment of what is made, what is broadcast and what is broadcast live. Most sitcoms and 1-hr dramas are likely to go online first. The prime time is likely to be inundated with sports, reality and news/talk.

PS. The Peacock is "live streaming" the Olympics on a 20-min delay. Who knows why.
 
DLD said:
It's one of those "if anyone knew" topics. I've mentioned in a sports related thread than the NFL 2021 Superbowl ratings were down about 20% despite the marquee QB match-up. The demographic audience that's being lost there is the under-29 group.

I'd speculate that the next several years will see a huge realignment of what is made, what is broadcast and what is broadcast live. Most sitcoms and 1-hr dramas are likely to go online first. The prime time is likely to be inundated with sports, reality and news/talk.

PS. The Peacock is "live streaming" the Olympics on a 20-min delay. Who knows why.
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It all adds up from all the demo’s. There are a lot of longtime fans that have walked away from the NFL for various reasons.

As far as the Olympics, I couldn’t care less(and I mostly work in the sports world and am in the “key” demographic). I literally watched about four minutes of the opening ceremonies and that was it. I’ve been re-watching GoT.
 
Run&Gun said:
It all adds up from all the demo’s. There are a lot of longtime fans that have walked away from the NFL for various reasons.
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Is that really true statistically? Sort of hard for me to believe that real fans would bail over political side dramas. I thought maybe people were watching more highlight reels etc and less actual games
 
The televised broadcast of the SB was down, but the streaming of it was at an all-time high.

If you really love football, you never stop watching it. Period.

Demographics only matter in certain locations and the data doesn't reflect accurately, IMO. In some states, entire towns are shut down when football happens. You can be 1 or 100.

Television habits have changed. And people have more things to do in life, or catch up on games in other ways (as alluded to), but anyone who has stopped watching football because of any political drama never actually watched football, if that makes sense.
 
ahalpert said:
Is that really true statistically? Sort of hard for me to believe that real fans would bail over political side dramas. I thought maybe people were watching more highlight reels etc and less actual games
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You have been around for the last 18 months or so, right? Lol
 
NorBro said:
The televised broadcast of the SB was down, but the streaming of it was at an all-time high.

If you really love football, you never stop watching it. Period.

Demographics only matter in certain locations and the data doesn't reflect accurately, IMO. In some states, entire towns are shut down when football happens. You can be 1 or 100.

Television habits have changed. And people have more things to do in life, or catch up on games in other ways (as alluded to), but anyone who has stopped watching football because of any political drama never actually watched football, if that makes sense.
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Maybe, maybe not... I have a buddy(one of my audio guys) that flat out said he would still watch the NFL if every player had "F*** 'his full name' " on the back of their jerseys. But I've talked to people that have watched their whole lives and have completely walked away. Depends on your personal values. I've seen family members break off contact with another over perceived political differences.
 
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Run&Gun said:
You have been around for the last 18 months or so, right? Lol
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18 months? I thought this issue dated back to Kaepernick. But yeah, I live in a blue state and I'm not a football fan so it's all theoretical to me and I dont know how actual fans feel around the country
 
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18 months? I thought this issue dated back to Kaepernick. But yeah, I live in a blue state and I'm not a football fan so it's all theoretical to me and I dont know how actual fans feel around the country
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I was drawing a parallel and referring to people making decisions that don't necessarily make sense, because of their political views(anything surrounding covid).
 
Perusing various political FB pages - although, lately I've been reliving hell that was the USSR at the same address - I can state seeing a lot of negativity toward several American leagues (NBA, NFL) and the Olympic team. I share some of them and, while I might watch the opening NFL quarter or two, I am less likely to stick around if the game itself isn't attractive enough or simply not developing to my liking.

On the other hand, I have watched a lot of NFL and soccer highlights on YouTube. NFL does it in about 11-13 minutes per game, the EPL is similar, ESPN abbreviated the Bundesliga highlights to 5-7, La Liga off beIn was 8-10 (let's see what they do without Messi, if there is no Messi in Spain) and I mostly tuned out France and Russia. Full NFL highlights alone add up to about two hours each Sunday night but I generally end up spreading all leagues across several days. After all, there are still camera and car reviews to watch.
 
Run&Gun said:
Maybe, maybe not... I have a buddy(one of my audio guys) that flat out said he would still watch the NFL if every player had "F*** 'his full name' " on the back of their jerseys. But I've talked to people that have watched their whole lives and have completely walked away. Depends on your personal values. I've seen family members break off contact with another over perceived political differences.
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Some folks are too sensitive and somehow try to make themselves a part of what's going on.

Compared to the players who kneel or protest in their own way, 99% of the league doesn't.

News doesn't even cover it any more.

Besides, those actions happen for 2 minutes before the game and they have no impact on the game.

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The NFL was amazing last year and it is a miracle the season even finished.

Now if players were holding out and affecting their team and the league because of unfair wins and losses then that would be totally different. But after the national anthem, everyone is focused on football.
 
I can quote most of the GB Packers starting lineup from the 1980 season, the first full season of me being a diehard fan.

But, after more than 40 seasons, I've learned to ween myself off blind loyalties. As folks in Wisconsin used to say during the Forrest Gregg era, "The fallen leaves are beckoning me".

And, back in the early-mid 1980's, I was also a big Bucks and Brewers fan - Lanier, Bridgeman, Moncrief, Winters, Buckner, Pierce, Pressley, Cummings, Molitor, Yount, Oglivie, Fingers, Vukovich, Haas - lots of names, lots of memories. Now, I can't name a single Brewer or a Buck.
 
40 years, half a century is a long time...you don't need me or anyone else to tell you the world is a different place.

The game doesn't even look the same (like even literally on TV because of advanced hardware/resolution, video production and broadcasting).
 
I watched a bunch of stuff on my 13" B&W Samsung because my parents wanted to watch "Dynasty".

But we have talked about it some time ago on the World Cup themed thread/posts - 1974 and beyond are still acceptable for watching. A few months ago, I was reminiscing about Dr.J's floating scoop against the Lakers and then looked up the 1983 finals (which were broadcast on tape delay because of the CBS prime time lineup) and it still looks good enough in 480.


Normally, I'd say that things changed a lot but, in many areas, they haven't changed that much.
 
NorBro said:
Some folks are too sensitive and somehow try to make themselves a part of what's going on.

Compared to the players who kneel or protest in their own way, 99% of the league doesn't.

News doesn't even cover it any more.

Besides, those actions happen for 2 minutes before the game and they have no impact on the game.

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The NFL was amazing last year and it is a miracle the season even finished.

Now if players were holding out and affecting their team and the league because of unfair wins and losses then that would be totally different. But after the national anthem, everyone is focused on football.
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Yeah but it's also true that football (and baseball before it) were always semi-political in nature, synonymous with patriotism and perhaps also traditional gender roles. So, kind of conservative values generally. I suppose I can see how lifestyle fans as opposed to purist sports fans could get turned off. Nevertheless, I was always impressed by the depth of american football fandom...
 
You can say that about pretty much everything in the entire world.

If you're under a microscope or you have a lot of money (even normal people), eventually you're going to do something in life that will upset someone. It's only in recent years after everyone and everything was put under a 24/7 digital reviewing that major changes on the planet started to take place.

For the NFL (or American sports), the argument above would only make sense if the entire league was advocating protests.

If someone is so offended that they want to punish an entire team and eliminate football from his or her life because of a few people choosing to protest then it is what it is.

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As far as football fandom, it's just sports, in general. Athletic competition.

I love cameras and stuff, but I feel like my entire life's living has been structured by the changing seasons in the northeast and the sports they bring.

So I just can't process how someone who really loves something can stop watching it because of a few people.

Any smart individual understands nothing will ever be perfect, but punishing players - at least now in this advanced society - would produce many, many more problems.
 
DLD said:
I watched a bunch of stuff on my 13" B&W Samsung because my parents wanted to watch "Dynasty".

But we have talked about it some time ago on the World Cup themed thread/posts - 1974 and beyond are still acceptable for watching. A few months ago, I was reminiscing about Dr.J's floating scoop against the Lakers and then looked up the 1983 finals (which were broadcast on tape delay because of the CBS prime time lineup) and it still looks good enough in 480.


Normally, I'd say that things changed a lot but, in many areas, they haven't changed that much.
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I think you're remembering it better than it was...nostalgia also helps, it feels good.

There's always been a decent amount of cutting as far as multi-camera, but no sky cameras, less cameras, less gimbals (steadicams), of course less resolution...

With MSs and CUs the detail is obviously better, but the WSs are straight up mud. (Eventually you can make out players by their body language but still.)

Just like with video games, we never noticed this stuff living through it...really amazing mental phenomenon.
 
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