Brickhouse Media
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Fianally jumped on a T3i and I'm building a machine to run Vegas Pro11. Would 10 be safer? Anyone have any bad experience?
Am I safe with Pro11?
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eiker_ir
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i haven't tried it yet, but whenever i save and old Vegas 10 project in Vegas 11 it shows a warning that it will become unusable in previous versions.
And to answer the original question, yes i'd say it's completely safe, i've found every new version and updates more stable than the previous one and i haven't had any real troubles or bad experiences with Vegas in the last couple of years.
And to answer the original question, yes i'd say it's completely safe, i've found every new version and updates more stable than the previous one and i haven't had any real troubles or bad experiences with Vegas in the last couple of years.
Sol M.
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I would also head over to Sony's own forums to pose your question as there seem to be a lot of users who are discontented with v11. I generally skip 1-2 versions between upgrades and I upgraded to v10 (from v6) last year, so I'm not planning to upgrade to v11 myself.
ZazaCast
Major Contributor
+1, I'm sticking with Vegas Pro 9... I checked-out the demo version of 11 and it really didn't add anything for me (I have an older graphics card, so no increased rendering power).
Brickhouse Media
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I'm upgrading from Movie Studio 6. Overdue.
clang
Veteran
If you don't need any of v11's new features, and can get a cheaper licence for v10 somehow (I'm hazy on the legalities of transferring a licence from one user to another, and presumably Sony don't sell earlier versions), then yes v10 may well be worth considering - it's naturally pretty stable.
From eiker's above comment, trying to run both versions wouldn't be a useful option after all, due to project file incompatibility.
From eiker's above comment, trying to run both versions wouldn't be a useful option after all, due to project file incompatibility.
Sol M.
Veteran
On of the biggest benefits of v10 compared to earlier versions is improved performance when working with h.264 files (AVCHD, Canon DSLRs, etc.). This was the main reason that I upgraded to v10. While I notice that v10 crashes a LOT more than v6, the realtime playback alone is worth it.
Brickhouse Media
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Thanks.
Richard Crowley
Veteran
I upgraded from Pro 9 to Pro 11. I started using 9 when I became dis-enchanted with Adobe's premium prices.
I'm still on the learning curve for Vegas (vs Premiere). To be sure there are many features of Vegas that make it much easier to use than Premiere. But there are some (rather critical IMHO) features that I just took for-granted in Premiere and sorely miss in Vegas.
Two of the biggest things I miss are the ability to simply set the gain on individual audio clips (in dB numbers), and the built-in title generator. V11 now has a feature to normalize an individual clip audio, but not the abilbity to CONTROL the normalization target. By contrast, in Premiere you can manually set the individual clip levels by typing in dB numbers, OR normalize a clip to whatever level you wish. And the built-in title/graphics generator in Vegas is incredibly primitive compared to what I used all the time in Premiere.
I commonly get raw footage as AVCHD (from my Sony NX5 cameras), and XDCAM (from my Sony EX1) and ProRes (from my AJA KiPro). Vegas 9 handled the AVCHD and XDCAM footage natively (as I would expect from a Sony product). But V9 made a dog's breakfast out of the sound track of my ProRes files. And no amount of fiddling with the codecs would fix that. The video track was fine, but the audio was a mess.
However V11 apparently has the ProRes audio problem fixed at least for 2-track stereo, I haven't tried multiple tracks, yet.
But V9 was always buggy and fragile IME, and I learned to hit Ctl-S (Save) often so I could recover when it crashed. Alas, V11 seems just as buggy and crash-prone. The NewBlue title generator (that comes with V11) is somewhat better than the primitive native generator, but still not as flexible, capable or easy to use as the Premiere title generator. And both V9 and V11 seem particularly crash-prone when using the title generator. I have almost arrived at the decision to just abandon those features and produce all my titles with a 3rd part external app and import the files into Vegas. This is a big disappointment.
I'm still on the learning curve for Vegas (vs Premiere). To be sure there are many features of Vegas that make it much easier to use than Premiere. But there are some (rather critical IMHO) features that I just took for-granted in Premiere and sorely miss in Vegas.
Two of the biggest things I miss are the ability to simply set the gain on individual audio clips (in dB numbers), and the built-in title generator. V11 now has a feature to normalize an individual clip audio, but not the abilbity to CONTROL the normalization target. By contrast, in Premiere you can manually set the individual clip levels by typing in dB numbers, OR normalize a clip to whatever level you wish. And the built-in title/graphics generator in Vegas is incredibly primitive compared to what I used all the time in Premiere.
I commonly get raw footage as AVCHD (from my Sony NX5 cameras), and XDCAM (from my Sony EX1) and ProRes (from my AJA KiPro). Vegas 9 handled the AVCHD and XDCAM footage natively (as I would expect from a Sony product). But V9 made a dog's breakfast out of the sound track of my ProRes files. And no amount of fiddling with the codecs would fix that. The video track was fine, but the audio was a mess.
However V11 apparently has the ProRes audio problem fixed at least for 2-track stereo, I haven't tried multiple tracks, yet.
But V9 was always buggy and fragile IME, and I learned to hit Ctl-S (Save) often so I could recover when it crashed. Alas, V11 seems just as buggy and crash-prone. The NewBlue title generator (that comes with V11) is somewhat better than the primitive native generator, but still not as flexible, capable or easy to use as the Premiere title generator. And both V9 and V11 seem particularly crash-prone when using the title generator. I have almost arrived at the decision to just abandon those features and produce all my titles with a 3rd part external app and import the files into Vegas. This is a big disappointment.
The Vegas titler isn't and wasn't ever meant to be the same kind of thing as Premiere's (and other NLEs') all-in-one titler. I think a lot of people proceed on the assumption that it is and get frustrated with it.
The titler is meant to get words on the screen, and that's about it. It's the FX you can apply to it which makes it effective titling.
This is markedly different from other NLEs, so people tend to get bent out of shape about it if they're used to doing it a certain way. It's rare that I can't actually do whatever it is I have in mind with Vegas's titles and FX.
The titler is meant to get words on the screen, and that's about it. It's the FX you can apply to it which makes it effective titling.
This is markedly different from other NLEs, so people tend to get bent out of shape about it if they're used to doing it a certain way. It's rare that I can't actually do whatever it is I have in mind with Vegas's titles and FX.
You can do this by grabbing the top of the audio clip and dragging.
Vegas has always had this.
That is true.