AG-7200 (AG7200) Anamorphic Lens Discussion and Footage

Jeff Nitzberg

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http://vimeo.com/9625321


Some of this info is burried on some of the other Anamorphic DLSR lens tests threads, so I figured I'd start a new thread just for the AG-7200 Panasonic adapter. If anyone has experience or footage please post it here!

Here is my experience with the adapter thus far:

My setup is the 5D MARK II attached to lenses without the use of any kind of diopter. Just 72mm step-up/down rings. It was simply screwed onto the front of lenses using step up rings.)

ZOOM THROUGH AND RACK FOCUS: Yes, both possible. Infinity focus is possible. You have use of pretty much the entire range of the lens. The focal length limits of what you can achieve with the Panasonic thus tested are: 30mm-125mm. Anything wider than 30mm is going to vignette where you see the edges of the adapter, 125mm was simply the longest lens I had to test with, but the image was focusable, though the lens needed to be stopped down a great deal to achieve acceptable sharpness. *This is for the 35mm FULL FRAME format.

OUT OF FOCUS PROPERTIES AND DEPTH OF FIELD: Depth of field is FAR SHALLOWER with the anamorphic adapter attached. The oof characteristics of the lens the base lens are enhanced wonderfully in the that special way only anamorphic can do. A wide shallower field of view similar to longer focal lengths. To achieve acceptable sharpness sometimes however, the lens has to be stopped down (to compensate for both horizontal and vertical resolution) this of course reduces all that nice OOF.

CLOSE FOCUS CAPABILITIES: This depends heavily on the lens used, distance from subject, and F-stop. The 35mm Flektogon could do well about 6 feet out about wide open, stopped down to f16 the lens could be acceptably focused on objects much closer… I can’t remember for sure HOW much closer but it’s at least a foot away from the lens.

SHARPNESS VIA LENS: Depends. On the 35mm Flektogon, the image was sharp edge to edge, about wide open at f2.4 at all distances (minus close focus limit, talked about above) On the Nikon 28-70mm zoom, wide open, (f2.8) the image was blurry on the edges of the frame at infinity, and sharpens up around 15 feet out at the edges throughout the zoom range.***

***I believe the explanation for the blurred edges (though this is just my guess) has to do with the front element size/distance from the back of the Panasonic adapter. The Flektogon has a very small front element that is also very flat, and fits entirely within the space of the rear Panasonic adapter rectangular element. The Nikon on the other hand, has a very large curved front element, that stretched well beyond the diameter of the Panasonic’s rear element. Cause of edge blur?

Keep in mind the edges become sharper on the Nikon when stopped down dramatically. On the Nikon it takes until about F11 for the sides of the frame to sharpen up at infinity… though it’s not perfect.

LIGHT LOSS: the canon’s high iso performs so amazingly well that it’s hard to tell, but light loss appears MINIMAL, maybe a stop or less?

SHARPNESS OVERALL: the anamorphic definitely softens the hd image overall, but that isn’t by any means a negative thing. I personally love the look of anamorphic; its ability to isolate the subject, so razorblades aren’t as important to me. I don’t own the ISCO, but compared to the footage shown here, the Panasonic is not nearly as capable of the same sharpness wide open. But there are so many variables, lens combinations and a lot of other factors that contribute to sharpness.

Vimeo also heavily compressed the footage, which took a big bite out of image quality.
 
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The lens used for the above videos are broken down on the vimeo pages, but here is a quick recap:

Nature Walk: 35mm Flektogon f2.4, 50mm Helios F2

Werner the Dog: 35mm Flektogon f2.4

Night Test: Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 zoom

Day to Dusk: Nikon 28-70mm, 35mm, Flektogon f2.4, 50mm Helios F2
 
Damn, I knew I should have kept that ana-adapter. Well I bet I can find one on ebay. Nice stuff. I am still glad I got this cam despite all the negativity that surrounds it.
 
nice work Jeff! great looking videos. i also spent alot of time testing this adapter, and came up with mostly the same conclusions, although i was using the GH1. the adapter is pretty quirky to use, but can give some great results.

 
Thanks Ryan, I just watched your vid, and the LOMO squarefront ones as well. WOW. Do you know how WIDE a focal length you can get on the GH1 with the AG-7200 before you see vignetting? Also, are you having to do any cropping in post with either the AG7200 or the LOMO square front?
 
i was squishing the AG7200 vertically 1.33x then cutting in a 1920x812 timeline.

for the LOMO's i've been squishing vertically 2x and then cutting in a 1296x540 timeline.. so youre cropping a lot because those lenses create a 3.56:1 aspect.

and on the GH1 i could go to about 18mm with the AG7200;

kit lens @ 18mm
f/4.5
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f/8
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Great page. Has anyone tried the Panamorphic :) adapter with any Canon glass? I would love to try this with the 24-105 f/4 or 24-70 f/2.8.
 
I've ust received my panasonic AG-LA7200 today
I've mounted it on a Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 with my Canon eos 5d mark II

I can start from 34 mm to the max 70mm.
I will use it for filming in 2.35 format.

I'm trying the workflow with premiere pro right now

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Hi, I am new here. Just ordered LA7200 on e-bay, and I would like to know if it is possible to mount it on GH1 kit lens? Do I need 62 mm - 72 mm step up ring?

thanks.
 
yes 62-72 and maybe an extra 72mm ring you can get from smahing a used UV/clear filter to use as a spacer to be able to connect to the very recessed threads on the panny.
 
Ryan, that second still is stunning.

So with smaller sensors you can use shorter focal lengths correct? How wide can you go with a 7D?

What is the anamorphic ration of the adapter? How much does it "compress"?
 
it is a 1.33x squeeze : gives you 2.35 from the 5D/7D 16:9 ratio.
works fine down to about 28 / 35 on fullframe depending on the taking lens front element.
that would be fine with most primes on the 7D.
 
Great, x1.33 is perfect, thanks for the reply.

So it sounds like 24mm would be a safe bet on the 7D then... and it would give you closer to 18mm FOV, right? What is the math for calculating equivalent FOVs with the x1.33?
 
Anyone know where to get these? I can't seem to locate any.

They weren't hard to locate when I bought mine a couple months ago. I suspect Mr. Bloom is gonna make them a lot harder to acquire soon (either that or eBay's gonna flood with LA7200's after he dislikes it and buys an Isco instead, lol).
 
haha yes indeed it is right now a better time to be selling anamorphics than to try buying them...
after seeing the iscorama bids skyrocket to amazing heights and the miscellaneous scope underdogs surely getting higher bids after early adopters experimented & reported working alternatives, it seems those leftovers will rise too as newcomers want in the anamorphics club...
 
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