Bern Caughey
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I briefly tried a Sony PL on a F3. Don't remember the focal length, but was surprised the focus ring only turned about 90*.
Regards,
Bern
PS The F3 has a nice EVF with a decent sized image.
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Affordable PL mount lenses for the AF-100
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I briefly tried a Sony PL on a F3. Don't remember the focal length, but was surprised the focus ring only turned about 90*.
Regards,
Bern
PS The F3 has a nice EVF with a decent sized image.
Barry_Green
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Some of those Sony lenses are available on ebay right now.
i though the Sony PL lenses have a weird "proprietary" thing that makes them unable to be used on anything but the F3?
heavyG
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His existing PL to m4/3 adapter is shimmable - and his new improved one will arrive at my studio tomorrow. It has an internal mech that allows you to adjust flange focal dist without removing the lens…
I'll post pics and how it works once I can get it on the camera.
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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Probably listed after 5min of using them by people who ordered them without testing first. :tongue:
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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Timur,
Some of the newer sony lenses are proprietary sony mount, like the EX-3 has I believe... but the primes are PL. I believe the zooms planned to come out were originally supposed to be the sony mount, but I hear rumors now that they will be PL. Who knows. I tested the primes and they were quite disappointing. I encourage you do some tests. Optically they weren't special but weren't horrible. Like you know, it's HARD to make a lens that isn't sharp enough these days. It lacked character and the mechanical build was horrific. They are super large, plastic, and dull. Lacks witness marks, an appropriate focal range selection and more. The one I tested had mold injection defects on the plastic. gawd they were quite awful if you are a 1st AC. Probably the worst of any modern lens. The witness marks totally lacking, makes a RPP seem like a Cooke. hahahaha
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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It's really funny, but PL lenses until just recently have been very very top shelf. With the exception of some Russian lenses and other rare sets, the main PL lens manufacturers have been dealing with the top of the top professionals... think Arri, Cooke, Angenieux, Zeiss, etc.
Now that PL mount is more for the 'masses' because of cameras like PL'd DSLR's, AF100's and F3's, we will begin to see come less than fantastic but decent lens sets arrive to market... something that really hasn't existed in the PL realm before.
If you are mid-range shopper, look at Optimo DP series zooms or Cooke Panchro/i's. If those are still out of range, check out Red Pro Primes, or CP-2's. If you must go lower than that, I've got nothing for you. The Cp-2's just barely float my boat, and the Sony set fails. If you are on a budget, and the CP-2's aren't for you, I'd highly suggest you look into older PL glass. You can probably get a really great older Angeniuex HR zoom lens, an older cooke 20-100 zoom, or an older set of Ziess SS's maybe even the good MIII's for a good deal.
Affordable and PL don't usually go together. But now we'll see where the market goes...
Examples:
Cooke Varotal 18-100 zoom! T/3 @ $15,000
http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=15&Cat=8&Cat2=20&Cat3=29
This is a good buy for the non-handheld cinema crowd. If you can float the stop of a T/4 or T/4-5.6 split area, you've got a very sharp zoom that covers basically the 'normal' range for 90% of all productions filming on S35mm sized sensors.
Sure 15,000 sounds like alot, but pay $7,000 for the three sony's, or whatever they cost, and you're only getting a 35-85 lens set. Say Sony pulls it's head out from the sand and realizes people will actually need a wide angle lens and something more telephoto than an 85... if they made a 18mm, 25mm and 100mm prime lens to match the set, and priced them around 2,300/pop... you're still looking at a set that is around $14,000 all in. I'd rather have the Cooke Zoom. And I guarantee the Cooke will outlast the Sony and have much better barrel rotation and focus marks on the barrel. Promise.
If on a tighter budget, you could go for the slightly older and less versitle Cooke 20-100 zoom, T/3.1 for around $8,000
http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=14&Cat=8&Cat2=20&Cat3=29
I just 1st AC'd with this lens on a music video. LOVED the focus marks on the barrel. Super well spaced out and marked. Had about every 6'' marked up until the mid teens and even then every foot until the 20's. Great lens... doesn't get super wide, but it gets hella tight.
Angeniuex HR 25-250mm 10x Zoom! T/3.5 (it's a bit slower.)
http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=620&Cat=8&Cat2=20&Cat3=29
If you don't have any money, you can get the NON-HR older version of this lens which is slower, I think a T/4, for under 5k. Probably much under that. Just don't point it at very bright light sources, even soft, if you don't want contrast reduction and light bouncing around in the lens. Has a very cool tendency to flare and contrast variance... if you want it.
For about 15,000 if you need the more typical range and not super telephoto, this lens is not as good as the HR, in my opinion, but that is all subjective and is still a good choice. It's also faster!
http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=502&Cat=8&Cat2=20&Cat3=29
Look into Zeiss/Arri Standards or SuperSpeeds, MkI, II, or III. Those will run you more between 20,000-30,000.
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You can find rrrreeeaaaallllyyyyy old lomos in pl for a few hundred bucks each.
Also see if you can find old zeiss "mickey" lenses. I don't know what they are officially called. They are the kind that go on the turret of an arri IIc. I think a set is about 10k, plus 500 for the bncr to PL adapter.
Also, ryan, I dunno how it is in LA but superspeeds go for 45k a set. Its a CRAZY price I think, but once they inflated when the red came out, they just refuse to drop.
Also see if you can find old zeiss "mickey" lenses. I don't know what they are officially called. They are the kind that go on the turret of an arri IIc. I think a set is about 10k, plus 500 for the bncr to PL adapter.
Also, ryan, I dunno how it is in LA but superspeeds go for 45k a set. Its a CRAZY price I think, but once they inflated when the red came out, they just refuse to drop.
Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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It really depends which they are. Superspeeds have three generations. The MKIII's in good condition are extremely valuable. The MkI's aren't as much.
Here is a set of PL'd (originally Arri- B mount) Super Speeds MKI's T/1.4 (not T/1.3's)... for $24,000
http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=1335&Cat=8&Cat2=18&Cat3=26
Here is a set of SS MkI's for 25,000:
http://westcoastcinevideo.com/West_Coast_Cine_Video/Prime_Lenses.html
I've seen MK II sets go for about $32,000 on average.
But yes... a very good condition MKIII superspeed set can probably run you upwards of $45,000.
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Ryan Patrick O'Hara
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Asking for cheap PL mount lenses (lenses that don't use adapters) is like asking for a cheap sports car. You can get bottom shelf new or older higher grade glass. That's about it. Not lots of options.
Great, I happily stand corrected. I'd be happy to see pictures of the new adapter when you have some pixes to share. Thanks.