AF101 Officially on the BBC Approved Camera List

Will talk to the guys at our local ARD station (first channel national broadcasters) in the next days who have the AG-AF in test but according to them there should also be no problem that the AG-AF - under the conditions that it is used with external recorder - will get accepted for German Broadcasters.
 
AF-100 with the SDI output would be optimal.

I thought the BBC had tested this with a nanoflash, and nominally approved it under certain circumstances. No word about the Hyperdeck though; it has not been released yet and the BBC have not approved it.
 
sean90291 said:
I'm quite keen on a Hyperdeck + AF100 setup. How easy would it be to use this device with the AF-100's HDMI output? Is that the optimal setup? Thanks!
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From what I saw it also recorded from SDI, seems like that would be the way to go. Anyone here have anymore info on the hyperdeck? Does it support 24psf? At $345 it seems almost too good to be true for an external recorder.
 
Oliver Rush said:
From what I saw it also recorded from SDI, seems like that would be the way to go. Anyone here have anymore info on the hyperdeck? Does it support 24psf? At $345 it seems almost too good to be true for an external recorder.
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Yes it is too "cheap" to be true ... since the price of storage must be taken into account. At 800 GB an hour on SSD be prepared to fork out the $$$ when using the Hypedeck.....unless the market for SSD storage explodes and prices drop outrageously.

I still wonder why the Hyperdeck is not applying a mild, non destructive compression to the raw stream from HSDI (kind of Red Raw).
 
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danap said:
Yes it is too "cheap" to be true ... since the proce of storage must be taken into account. At 800 GB an hour on SSD be prepared to fork out the $$$ when using the Hypedeck.....unless the market for SSD storage explodes and prices drop outrageously.

I still wonder why the Hyperdeck is not applying a mild, non destructive compression to the raw stream from HSDI (kind of Red Raw).
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Well with a 120gb SDD for 215 bucks, that makes this external recording setup a little over 550 bucks, thats still quite cheap compared to the nanoFlash w/ 2 64g gb cards.
 
eheath said:
Well with a 120gb SDD for 215 bucks, that makes this external recording setup a little over 550 bucks, thats still quite cheap compared to the nanoFlash w/ 2 64g gb cards.
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Not sure if my numbers are correct but a 120gb drive would hold 12 minutes of uncompressed....while a 64gb card in a nano would hold 60 minutes at highest quality compression(280). And a 64gb approved card is less than 200.
 
The next issue is:

1. Is this "specialty HD" camera, following the terminology used by BBC deemed acceptable for shooting 100% of the footage?
or
2. Is it still restricted to 10%, 20% etc. ?

In other words:
is the AF100 + external recorder approved without reservations?
 
danap said:
The next issue is:

1. Is this "specialty HD" camera, following the terminology used by BBC deemed acceptable for shooting 100% of the footage?
or
2. Is it still restricted to 10%, 20% etc. ?

In other words:
is the AF100 + external recorder approved without reservations?
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BBC Scotland used an AF101 with a Nanoflash successfully. It is nominally approved by the BBC, insofar as a successful precedent has been set but you would still have to pitch this to them to get full approval.
They have not 'approved' the Hyperdeck as it has not been released and certainly not tested.
 
Who here shoots for the BBC?
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That's not really the point. The fact is that any and all network/cable companies that don't have the resources (or don't want to expend the time and money) will use the BBC as a reference, just as they did with super16 in the 1980s. Sadly (for me at least, because I miss it) the BBC no longer approves super16 for production, which is ironic when you consider that some of their best shows, originally shot in super16 and remastered for digital, look great on contemporary screens.
 
I shoot for the BBC, I am pitching for two projects a the moment, these pieces I'm proposing are fairly short and are part of a much larger programme.
I intend to use my AF101 for these two projects now that the camera has been "officially confirmed" as being on the approved list.
 
Would be interesting also for us "old europeans" on the continent if you can tell us how it went - the "Beep" still sets standards here.
 
You don't think the BBC will eventually approve an HDSDI UNCOMPRESSED external recorder? So they would take 50mbps 4:2:2 MPEG2, but not uncompressed 4:2:2? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense guys. The negativity of some people on this forum is killing me.
 
I think its just a question of time and resources, my guess is that they will get round to testing it and giving their verdict. In terms of camera gear you pitch your project and and if your camera is "none standard" you can give reasons why you wish to use it. (When I say non standard i.e. canon 5D)
As far as I am aware.. a programme was shot for BBC 4 on supermarket shelf stackers using a Canon 5D, also the BBC college of production had a few trainers circle the UK giving instruction on the Canon 5D.

Helicopter heros (a BBC production) was shot with Sony EX3 and external storage (nanoflash)...

So yes... with external storage - the panasonic AF101 can be used for HD production.
 
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RJS said:
Not sure if my numbers are correct but a 120gb drive would hold 12 minutes of uncompressed....while a 64gb card in a nano would hold 60 minutes at highest quality compression(280). And a 64gb approved card is less than 200.
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yeah i was trying to find where it has the numbers for the hyperdeck, if you can do 100mbps then a 120gb would work great.
 
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