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MikeZas

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So these days, with AVCHD around the corner, and the XH A1 looking ever more tempting, can $3500 for the DVX100b really be justified? I've been in the market for a camera for a long time, and I'm sort of getting tired of the wait and see phase. Needless to say, I'm giving this a lot of my own thought, but it couldn't hurt to have other people chime in, so here's what I've got floating around:

Option 1. A brand new, $3000-3500 DVX100b

It's clean, it's shiny, it's authorized and legit, it's everyone's favorite camera. I've wanted a DVX for some time now, but now that I can finally afford one, I'm starting to ask myself - is the price really worth it for a camera that is slowly starting to show it's age? Out of all the prosumer cameras out there, I have the most expierence with the DVX, having shot several shorts on friends and rented ones. I love the camera... but I also love my $3500.


Option 2. A used, $2000-2500 DVX100a/b (with a potential Andromeda upgrade down the line)

I saw in the marketplace the other day a DVX100a with all kinds of accessories, a matte box, etc., for just 2k, but how am I to sleep at night knowing that I'm sending my hard earned money to a total stranger with no guarantee of getting anything in return? Ebay is a bit safer, and yet at the same time it's less safe - we all know about those greymarket scammers and their tactics. There are places like eletronixmax who are legit, but they're prices ($2500-2600 for As and Bs) might not be worth sacrificing a warranty. I dunno, it's a tough call. What makes it so tempting for me is that I feel like this is the price the DVX is actually worth - it's a great camera, sure, but I just don't see it as being worth $3000 these days. My initial plan was to get a used DVX100a/b, make some money with various jobs and eventually upgrade it to an Andromeda for another $2000 (student discount). I'm in love with the Andromeda look, and for $4000 (used DVX + andromeda), it's price competes with the XH-A1 - and it's picture blows it out of the water. But still, I'd be dealing with a used product, and that makes me nervous.
I'd love to hear people's experiences with used DVXs. Anybody wishing they had a warranty?

Option 3. A shiny new $4000 XH-A1
A lot of people have said that they see no reason for a DVX now that the A1's are around, and part of me is inclined to agree with them. But being that $3000 is already stretching my budget, the $4000 price tag is a hard sell, considering I prefer the DVX's image at standard definition. Still, everyone, including me, loves big pictures, and it's certainly tempting.

Optioin 4. Wait and See
BUT MOMMY I WANT MY CAMERA NOW!!!

Yes son, but you'll be kicking yourself in a few months when Panasonic releases the $3500 AVCHD DVX100C SUPERTURBO EDITION.

ALRIGHT FINE.


If it helps, I'll be swinging back from short films to videography, doing both about equally.
 
Go for option two. People pay for your talent, not the camera. If they are paying for your talent "plus" they want HD, then wait to see what the A1 will do. Getting a camera used, at a good price (and good condition) then learning, making your own stuff etc., is the best way to go. Buy it for $2500, keep it a year and sell it for $2k.
FD
 
Go for the used DVX. Do your homework on the seller and look for a low mileage camera. Forget the HDV cams if you're buying for the future because it's going to be a very short-lived format. If you need some form of HD today and can only afford an HDV cam, then I think it's fine, but I think it makes more sense to buy an HD cam when you really need HD.
 
That's a good point. I once remarked to a friend of mine that I'd never tolerate the HDV format, but the A1 is just plain tantalizing. Still, you guys are definitley shifting me back to my original plan.
 
I bought a used DVX100 off ebay for about $2k. It has served me great and I'm glad I saved the extra $1600 (for what a new DVX would've been). The extra money I saved I bought audio equipment and some small lights.
 
Go for option B. Buy my DVX so I can buy an A1, and I'll report to you on whether or not it's a good investment!
 
Barry_S said:
Forget the HDV cams if you're buying for the future because it's going to be a very short-lived format. If you need some form of HD today and can only afford an HDV cam, then I think it's fine, but I think it makes more sense to buy an HD cam when you really need HD.

I'd go with option three.

Dvx has 4:3 ccd:s, no 1080. Talk about short-lived.
 
i bought a new dvx last month and took out a loan... i had to have it fresh out of the box... i'm just kind of like that, i guess.

i love it to death!
-kyle
 
Barry_S said:
Forget the HDV cams if you're buying for the future because it's going to be a very short-lived format. If you need some form of HD today and can only afford an HDV cam, then I think it's fine, but I think it makes more sense to buy an HD cam when you really need HD.

Thats exactly why Canon and JVC are releasing new models. HDV is well supported by NLEs in 24f or p mode. At this point in time its the easiest to work with. Not sure of your point there, insofar as SD is out of date.

That said I will only ever keep a cam for about 12 months. And sure if SD suits your needs a 100b or used 100a are both great and will provide quality SD results.
 
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