Advice on Shooting 24p

Thanks. I have been shooting/experimenting with 24p and I do like the look. But I find in situations where there is no movement to follow, one is stuck and the only way out is to cut to a different shot. This is fine for scripted shooting but not good if only one camera is documenting events... Like David said, picking the format for what you are shooting is quite important.

I have had good luck shooting in 720p60 and getting 24p in Edius. Looks pretty much like you shot it in 24p from the beginning. Great for mixed looks inside of one project.
 
Remember, though, if you shoot 60p and convert to 24p, the movement judder will end up being the same as if you shot 24p all along. If you're shooting 60p, you won't see the problem moments while you're shooting.

This is why I generally advise against those who say to just shoot everything 60p all the time and convert to other frame rates later if they want to. You'll get nasty surprises later, and converting frame rates will never give you the same quality as if you shot the correct frame rate originally.
 
Sorry I missed your reply. Thanks for the tip. I have been shooting my GH2 in 24p and I really do like it. Makes me think about composition a lot more knowing you can not just move the camera over and grab a shot. In my mind it takes me out of the newsy "being there" approach to the "take the viewer there" approach. But in quick situations it can force a more subdued result due to the pre-planning nature. It is a challenge.
 
There's an aesthetic associated with 24P. Much like there is with film grain. They are just two blocks to build a film look. The movement of the camera is sometimes a dead give away and will break the illusion if not handled properly.

35mm motion picture cameras used to be big and heavy and required large equipment to move it around, resulting in smooth. slow pans, dollys, etc... You want to replicate this.

When I was learning computer animation, they instructed us to use "real-world" camera movement as well as "real-world" prime lens settings, 22mm, 24mm, 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 135mm. When you use a zoom, it is associated more with video cameras than cinematic feature films. Use the prime settings on your zoom.

Some people have gone as far as modeling and setting up dynamics and rigging for "real-world" jibs, cranes, motion control rigs for camera moves inside the virtual space.

Starting with a 180 degree shutter for motion blur until you understand and see motion blur is a good idea. Test it. See the differences.

Take different shots changing your aperture. Get to know the differences.


24P vs 30P? I shoot and edit 24P exclusively if I'm making a "film". If it's an event, and not a documentary, I'll shoot 30P. I don't shoot 60i, but I will shoot 60P and conform it to 24P for slomo. There is also a 24P HD standard. Most sets are able to play back without no pulldown. My 24P renders are shorter.
 
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