FS5: Advice for Cine Lenses

Atobit

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I’m seek advice for a selection of Cine Lenses.
I own an FS5 for few days, coming for Mirrorless camera…what a change!

I’m not a pro, I make documentary for myself, family & friends.
I already own a set of photo lenses that covers a large focal range.
I’m looking for advice for a set of cine lenses, from ~20mm to ~>=100mm with an individual price of ~$1250 max.

I understand that Cine lenses with PL mount are usually expensive and massive. So after some search I’ve targeted the following:

1. Set of Sony Cine lens, the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] version that was delivered with the F3 camera, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, T2.0, PL mount
Pros: Real Cine lenses, cheap, not too heavy for Cine lenses
Cons: Old lenses, only 3 focal lengths, feel plastic? no wide angle or long focal lenses, difficult to find?

2. Set of Veydra lenses, 19mm (available fall ’16), 25mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, T2.2, E mount
Pros: New design, small, 300° focus ring, can be purchase individually
Cons: Small (not looks Cine lens)? 135mm is missing

Of course, as I did have touched those lenses so my appreciations might be wrong.

I have the following questions:
1. Any other lenses within the criteria?
2. How about the Veydra lenses? Would you consider them Cine lenses?
3. If I go with the Sony lenses, what PL adaptor to you recommend? What WA and long focal lenses could complete the kit?
4. Any other suggestion?

Thanks!
 
I own a set of the Sony Cine Lenses that I've had since I got my F3. Optically great lenses, and certainly worth more than I could sell them for. They are plastic, not metal, and you can tell when you handle them. We've been very careful with ours, and they have held up just fine, though. The biggest problem is the focus ring has a very short rotation. Unless you find a really good deal on them, I'd recommend against.
 
I own a set of the Sony Cine Lenses that I've had since I got my F3. Optically great lenses, and certainly worth more than I could sell them for. They are plastic, not metal, and you can tell when you handle them. We've been very careful with ours, and they have held up just fine, though. The biggest problem is the focus ring has a very short rotation. Unless you find a really good deal on them, I'd recommend against.

Thats a shame, I want one cine lens, probably a 35mm.... all I need/want it for is a nice long throw and minimal focus breathing and was also thinking the Sony's would be a low cost way to get there

I am sure I am going to get crap for this but I rented some CP2's in Nikon mount and found they had the same breathing as a DSLR lens, did not even seem like the focus throw was all that much longer either.... starting to think the "lower" cost options are just rehoused SLR lenses... really glad I rented before buying
 
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm going to give-up with the old Sony lenses.

I just realize that in Japan, where I live, the Canon Cinema EF mount lenses (CN-E Prime) are 33% cheaper than in the US, ~$2800 per lens.

Have you tested those Canon lenses?
 
Great! As it seems to be a good deal, I’m going to focus on those lenses for the time being living

For documentary, mostly exterior shots, architecture and peoples, what combination of 3 lenses would you select? 24/50/85 or 14/35/85 or another selection?
 
I couldn't imagine slapping a heavy cinema lens on an FS5, it seems the most ill suited camera to accept heavy glass without a defeating the object of the FS5 by building a cumbersome rig to balance out the front heavy lens.

I know there is mileage in getting a decent set of lenses that will last a lifetime but are you going to see much of a return for your coin on the FS5?

You could save a shed load of money by getting yourself some decent stills primes and a metabones and have twice the number of FOVs for your money and IMHO you don't get the expensive prime lens look from these cheaper Primes. You might be fabulously wealthy in which case ignore my cheapskate opinion.
 
Take a look at the Zeiss Milvus lenses. You can get a pretty decent cinema-type lens with a manual aperture if you get the Nikon mount version (which you can have converted to Canon mount pretty easily). Zeiss also just released lens gears that you can add to the lenses. Optically, these are going to be better than anything in their price range, ranging from $1200 to $1800.
 
Damn, I would love some Canon Cinema Primes, but for 5 grand a pop I just can't do it. Even the Xeen's at 2,500.00 are a hefty chunk of change. I wish I had the kind of jobs in my area that could justify those lenses. We don't even have any lens rental in Humboldt County CA.
 
Thanks all for the advice.
My direction for the cine lenses what about getting a long focus rotation ring, so I'll go away from the photo lenses for the prime.
I’m going to rent the CN-E lenses during my next week-end in Tokyo so I will get a feel of the lenses. I wanted to rent the Veydra lenses as well but no one as them in rent or either selling them.
About the zoom, I already have the Sony 28-135mm, I’m adding the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 to my kit.
 
If cinema glass is a must have you might check out Veydra lens. Great build quality, smaller sized and good glass. Plus the price is reasonable. For the fs7 and fs5 these are a great match. I also use a set of canon zooms for run and gun stuff and the cinema tokina 11-16. One of the things I like best is the options this mount gives you, especially compared to a c300 or even a red. The metabones adapters even give you an extra stop. Bob
 
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