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how many of the members on here use ADR vs recording dialog onset? i'm in the midst of going the ADR route for a short and have done it before on a parody commercial, but this is on a much larger scale. also, i have a few questions going into the process that maybe some can answer.
 
Hate ADR. Although my experience with it has been in less than perfect situations. Perhaps if I was working in a first class facility, my feeling would change. I do understand that it needs to be done at times, and I know some actors that love doing it.

Don't know if I can help, but go ahead and ask.
 
I've done a fair amount of it and it can sound amazing but I try to avoid it whenever I can...lot of work. We did a 45 minute film last year that was maybe 90% ADR (damn generators.)
 
one question i have is separate location ADR for the same scene. i have two actors whom both live in different cities and wondering what's the best way to approach it. i'm going to be traveling to their places instead of them coming to mine >.< how can i manage the sounds to be similar? put them both in bathrooms?
 
Car3o said:
how can i manage the sounds to be similar? put them both in bathrooms?
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Whatever you do, do not put them in any kind of environment that has a distinctive reverb signature, which a bathroom certainly does. You will find it next to immpossible to remove that tail (however short) from the dialogue.

(Unless the whole original scene is filmed in a bathroom). :banned:
 
The size of room and wall materials have an effect on the sound as well.
Also the scene that takes place, you want it to sound like they're there and not an empty room.
 
Get as dry recording as possible which means avoiding bathrooms with tiled walls and floors. Rather opt for a clothes cabinet or similar small room with lots of sound absorbents. Then make it match in post by adding appropriate reverb or room reflections.
 
ohhh, well that's really good to know. wood floors? think they will cause any problems? im supposed to match both actors as if they were in a pool hall. what's a good suggestion?
 
One of these could help with front reflections.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...onics_PSRF_PSRF_PROJECT_STUDIO_REFLEXION.html

Also try and use the same or similar microphones that were used in the original recording, if you are just replacing parts of the dialogue. If you are completely replacing it, then that is less of an issue.

Also be aware of whether the original audio was boomed or lavaliered.

Are you planning on giving your talent visual feeds, or are you going with plain "audio repetition"? These are technical questions you will need to address.
 
rundavids said:
The size of room and wall materials have an effect on the sound as well.
Also the scene that takes place, you want it to sound like they're there and not an empty room.
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i hear to do that is to record my location for 30 seconds and add it in post beneath the actors dialog and keep looping it
 
stoneinapond said:
One of these could help with front reflections.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...onics_PSRF_PSRF_PROJECT_STUDIO_REFLEXION.html

Also try and use the same or similar microphones that were used in the original recording, if you are just replacing parts of the dialogue. If you are completely replacing it, then that is less of an issue.

Also be aware of whether the original audio was boomed or lavaliered.

Are you planning on giving your talent visual feeds, or are you going with plain "audio repetition"? These are technical questions you will need to address.
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i have a scratch track. both visual and audio. we were originally going to use onset audio, but at the pool hall where we filmed, the asshole manager blasted music, killing the entire scenes audio, but that's a different story.
 
Car3o said:
ohhh, well that's really good to know. wood floors? think they will cause any problems? im supposed to match both actors as if they were in a pool hall. what's a good suggestion?
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Any reflection will cause you problems down the line. Are there other scenes that take place in the pool hall that will not be ADRd?

If not, then as Marti suggested, get the dryest recording possible. Add ambience in post with hopefully a decent reverb - either hardware or Altiverb-like plug-in.
 
the whole short will be ADR after the pool hall, cause I want to keep the audio the same across the board.

edit: only one scene is in the pool hall.
 
Car3o said:
i hear to do that is to record my location for 30 seconds and add it in post beneath the actors dialog and keep looping it
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Depends on the the length of the scene. Looping is not a good solution, plus there will be no interaction between the actors and the ambience.

Certainly you could use the ambience as a blend to add flavor, but not as a primary solution.

JMHO.
 
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