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MikeD

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Hi Guys. Am fairly new to all this HD side of things and am looking at upgrading to CS3 and am looking at using On location for a documentary I am working on.

Is there anything I should look for in a lap top to run this.

Am looking at a Intel Core duo 2.5ghz
4 gig ram
Dual hard drives. One 250 gig the other 320 gig.
Does it matter what version of Vista?
 
Contrary to what one might believe, the requirements for successfully using DVRack/OnLocation are not that stringent.

I'm using both an old Celeron machine and a new Core2 Duo 1.6, each equipped with external drives. They both perform fine.

You'll need a Firewire port of course. I love DVRack/OnLocation.
 
I use it as well. I would think that your prospective machine should handle most situations with OL, although I have not used it under Vista. I know that Vista can be a real resource hog, so watch things closely.

I have never had problems capturing DVCPRO 50, but HD can be a different beast. The problem that I have encountered when capturing HD via OnLocation is that it OL doesn't tell you if it's dropping frames - so if you can run P2 or tape simultaneously, I would recommend doing so.

Also, there is quite a bit of latency which can make it difficult to focus as you are alway a little behind the talent.

You'll love all the scopes and stuff!!

Best,
Brad
 
Does OnLocation record an HD stream?

I thought it only recorded HDV.

So if one runs 720p out of the HPX-100, On Location will record it the same as P2?

Which file format will it be once on your computer?

Thanks
 
Bassman2003 said:
Does OnLocation record an HD stream?

I thought it only recorded HDV.

So if one runs 720p out of the HPX-100, On Location will record it the same as P2?

Which file format will it be once on your computer?

Thanks
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I assume you mean the HPX500? There is no HPX100.

OnLocation will record as either AVI or QT with its codec which is bit-for-bit identical to DVCPRO HD.

However, as the 500 (and the 200) will not stream in the 720 N modes, you can't use it with 24pN or 30pN. You can only use with the P modes. So, you can record 24p and 30p in 720, but in the 60p streams.
 
Thanx guys for the quick response.
Unfortunately all the laptops available here are on vista already.
The plan was to use onlocation for monitoring then download each card as they are full. Is this an option?
 
MikeD said:
Thanx guys for the quick response.
Unfortunately all the laptops available here are on vista already.
The plan was to use onlocation for monitoring then download each card as they are full. Is this an option?
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That is pretty much exactly how I use it, although I have used to record to HDD. And I'm pretty sure that CS3 runs under Vista.

My only complaint is the latency thing and I think that is just a firewire issue that is most likely outside the Adobe box of influence. but other than that, the rest of it rocks.

-Brad
 
The N modes record only the native frames to the card (i.e., 24p = 24 frames per second; 30p = 30 frames per second, etc.). The P modes record all frames rates in a 60p (60 hz/NTSC mode) or 50p (50 hz/PAL mode) stream, with duplicate frames in place.
 
remember that on location will strip out the extra frames at 24P and only save 24 frames per second - if you are recording to p2 at the same time then the card will be over 60i with pulldown though
 
smelni said:
remember that on location will strip out the extra frames at 24P and only save 24 frames per second - if you are recording to p2 at the same time then the card will be over 60i with pulldown though
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That depends on whether you have AVI Type 1 or AVI Type 2 selected in the menu, at least it did with DV Rack 2.x HD.

If you set it to Type 1 it will strip the duplicate frames and no pulldown processing will be required, if you set it to Type 2 it will not.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Hey thanks.

So is there any visual difference between 24p & 24Pn once it is edited?
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actually there is a difference UNLESS you remove pulldown from the 24p version - and not all editing systems do that automatically - if you dont remove the pulldown you will have interlaced footage - if you do you will have 24 frames exactly - to be exact and precise only 24pa with pulldown removed is exactly the same as 24pn. 24p is ALMOST the same - but not pixel for pixel exact
 
smelni said:
actually there is a difference UNLESS you remove pulldown from the 24p version - and not all editing systems do that automatically - if you dont remove the pulldown you will have interlaced footage
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Not in 720. If it's in the 24 "P" mode, it's recorded as 24p embedded in a 60p stream, not a 60i stream. No interlacing, no fields. Just duplicate frames.
 
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