EmperorHai
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What steps do I need to go through to add a NTSC tv to my editing desk? I.E. what adapters or whatever? Thanks!
Adding a TV.
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Taylor Moore
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Re: Adding a TV.
Computer--- firewire---camera firewire in ---Camera Svideo--TV
Computer--- firewire---camera firewire in ---Camera Svideo--TV
EmperorHai
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So I just plug a tv in with s-video from my graphics card??
So I just plug a tv in with s-video from my graphics card??
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No, that won't do it -- unless you have software which will specifically do it, and I think the only one which does that is Edition Pro, and then only with the proprietary AGP card.
You run the signal out through firewire to your camera or VTR and then run an S-Video cable from your camera/VTR to your TV.
No, that won't do it -- unless you have software which will specifically do it, and I think the only one which does that is Edition Pro, and then only with the proprietary AGP card.
You run the signal out through firewire to your camera or VTR and then run an S-Video cable from your camera/VTR to your TV.
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Most new video cards have Video In/Out option (VIO).
Most of them not independent from your VGA or DVI.
If you connect TV to output, your resolution need to decrease to 800x600 in some cases little bit higher, but it will have exacly same output as on your monitor.
Some dual head video card have output to two monitors at same time. But even some highend cards still have have problem with independet resolution, per each output.
Assuming you have software that support tv out as preview.
You have servel solution, most expencive to buy pro video card.
Other buy card witch support independet TV out (some ATI do)
And less expensive it have your primary card in AGP slot and add aditional video card in PCI slot with TV out, and use that card as TV output.
Windows XP will detect and will work in that combination, but you will need to tweak around with resolution for best result.
Most TV will requer no higher than 800x600 resolution.
Most new video cards have Video In/Out option (VIO).
Most of them not independent from your VGA or DVI.
If you connect TV to output, your resolution need to decrease to 800x600 in some cases little bit higher, but it will have exacly same output as on your monitor.
Some dual head video card have output to two monitors at same time. But even some highend cards still have have problem with independet resolution, per each output.
Assuming you have software that support tv out as preview.
You have servel solution, most expencive to buy pro video card.
Other buy card witch support independet TV out (some ATI do)
And less expensive it have your primary card in AGP slot and add aditional video card in PCI slot with TV out, and use that card as TV output.
Windows XP will detect and will work in that combination, but you will need to tweak around with resolution for best result.
Most TV will requer no higher than 800x600 resolution.
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What NLE are you using, Emp?
What NLE are you using, Emp?
EmperorHai
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I'm using Vegas 4.
I'm using Vegas 4.
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You can only preview out through FireWire with Vegas.
You can only preview out through FireWire with Vegas.
EmperorHai
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I used svideo from the comp to the tv and set it up using software that came with my nvidia card. I just drag the preview over to the tv now. Is this not a good idea? It works.
I used svideo from the comp to the tv and set it up using software that came with my nvidia card. I just drag the preview over to the tv now. Is this not a good idea? It works.
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Well, you're looking at a picture meant for a computer screen on a TV, instead of a picture meant for a TV screen. You're trying to view an RGBA colorspace on a screen meant for a YCrCb colorspace. Actually, you're not even doing that -- you're viewing the best approximation of an RGBA colorspace that the TV can give you, which isn't it.
A TV can't display nearly as many colors, nor the detail, that a computer monitor can. If you try to color correct, for example, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Your best option is running the firewire. You'll get a true TV picture. It'll look much better.
I get the idea you're really resisting feeding out through the FireWire -- why?
Well, you're looking at a picture meant for a computer screen on a TV, instead of a picture meant for a TV screen. You're trying to view an RGBA colorspace on a screen meant for a YCrCb colorspace. Actually, you're not even doing that -- you're viewing the best approximation of an RGBA colorspace that the TV can give you, which isn't it.
A TV can't display nearly as many colors, nor the detail, that a computer monitor can. If you try to color correct, for example, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Your best option is running the firewire. You'll get a true TV picture. It'll look much better.
I get the idea you're really resisting feeding out through the FireWire -- why?
EmperorHai
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Well, I just really don't like having to force my camera to be involved with the editing process. But, I want a true picture. Also, I don't understand how the my preview bench will transfer through the camera.
Well, I just really don't like having to force my camera to be involved with the editing process. But, I want a true picture. Also, I don't understand how the my preview bench will transfer through the camera.
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You're not in any way harming the camera by running the signal through it. It doesn't run the tape mechanism at all. It causes no wear. You don't even need a tape in. It's really no different than having an on-set CRT monitor, as far as the camera is concerned.
When you have the camera hooked up to the computer through FireWire, all you need to do is run an S-Video cable between the camera and the TV. Then, click the "preview out" button over the preview window in Vegas. The picture will be displayed on your TV screen. This will happen automatcially.
You're not in any way harming the camera by running the signal through it. It doesn't run the tape mechanism at all. It causes no wear. You don't even need a tape in. It's really no different than having an on-set CRT monitor, as far as the camera is concerned.
When you have the camera hooked up to the computer through FireWire, all you need to do is run an S-Video cable between the camera and the TV. Then, click the "preview out" button over the preview window in Vegas. The picture will be displayed on your TV screen. This will happen automatcially.
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Another suggestion -- buy an inexpensive base model mini-DV camcorder to use as a VTR. That way you can leave your DVX out of the loop, period.
Or, invest in a full-fledged VTR. You'll be able to run the same FireWire output through it.
Another suggestion -- buy an inexpensive base model mini-DV camcorder to use as a VTR. That way you can leave your DVX out of the loop, period.
Or, invest in a full-fledged VTR. You'll be able to run the same FireWire output through it.
EmperorHai
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When the option comes up for what device to us, what do I select?
When the option comes up for what device to us, what do I select?
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OHCI compliant IEEE-1394 DV. IEEE-1394 is the technical name for FireWire. (A slight variant is also called i.Link.)
OHCI compliant IEEE-1394 DV. IEEE-1394 is the technical name for FireWire. (A slight variant is also called i.Link.)
EmperorHai
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God, I hope I don't sound like an idiot, but even when I did that I just see a black screen on my tv. I can playback stuff from tape, but I can't preview vegas edits.
I'm going firewire to camera, svideo from camera to tv. Is this right?
God, I hope I don't sound like an idiot, but even when I did that I just see a black screen on my tv. I can playback stuff from tape, but I can't preview vegas edits.
I'm going firewire to camera, svideo from camera to tv. Is this right?
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Yeah, but check your split screen view. I almost went out of my gourd trying to figure out what was wrong when I had a black screen, and it was because of that. Make sure it's disabled (for now). Also, make sure no other program is accessing your FireWire port.
Yeah, but check your split screen view. I almost went out of my gourd trying to figure out what was wrong when I had a black screen, and it was because of that. Make sure it's disabled (for now). Also, make sure no other program is accessing your FireWire port.
EmperorHai
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Hmmm... the split-screen prev is disabled. And I have no other Firewire devices on my system. :-/ Any other suggestions.
Hmmm... the split-screen prev is disabled. And I have no other Firewire devices on my system. :-/ Any other suggestions.
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Without being there to look at it, it's hard to say. It should work. Try a reboot.
Without being there to look at it, it's hard to say. It should work. Try a reboot.