Add physical shutter to 5D2 to eliminate wobble, Dan Vance style?

If you don't want to shoot photos you don't need the shutter. Live view doesn't rely on the mecanical shutter, it works with an electronic shutter.
 
If you don't want to shoot photos you don't need the shutter. Live view doesn't rely on the mecanical shutter, it works with an electronic shutter.
so how about hacking the firmware so that the shutter is used in live view? it could probably keep up with the speed since i think it's the mirror flipping that limits the speed in continuous still mode. :-)

/matt
 
so how about hacking the firmware so that the shutter is used in live view? it could probably keep up with the speed since i think it's the mirror flipping that limits the speed in continuous still mode. :-)

/matt

Wonder if the shutter would break after 30 minutes shooting at that speed. I don't think it's made to stand that for a long time, even if you manage to speed it up. But I might be wrong. Who's gonna try it?:evil:
 
I think it will hold. Think of the strain the mirror has to suffer and it's fine for quite a while at like 5 fps. The guillotine shutter in the beaulieu cameras doesn't seem to mind (although it's not quite the same). /matt
 
I think the 5dm2 shutter is only rated to something like 100,000 cycles.That figures out to about an hour of continuous shooting. And I am pretty sure it wouldn't keep up with 30fps either, remember its a mechanical device and only a part of its job is opening and closing, its also got to cock somehow.

I think that something outside of the lens sounds most practical. If it will even work. But it should at least be relatively cheap and non-destructive to try... proof the concept. Maybe use a servo or stepper motor to drive a tin disk in circles and even if you can only sync it for a second you have proofed the concept cheaply.
 
hey, an hour of 35mm film costs more than this camera, so just get a few and throw them away as they wear out? :-)

/matt
 
I shot a clip while a strobe went off.

http://www.vimeo.com/2568049

Most of the frame was exposed by the flash.

I started experimenting with shooting clips with the 5D2 at various shutter speeds, recording the strobe of my 20D going off.

Only while shooting with a 1/30 shutter were there any frames of the 5D2 video that were uniformly exposed by the strobe. About a third of the strobe bursts were essentially "synced" in this way; the rest of the strobe bursts were spread across 2 frames.

The fact that some of the frames in the video are evenly illuminated by the strobe when the 5D2 is shooting at 1/30th means that there does exist a moment where every pixel on the sensor is integrating simultaneously. Therefore, the 5D2 is capable of being globally shuttered.

The interesting thing about a strobe going off while shooting, like in the clip above, is this: you could be shaking the camera around like crazy, making the image look like a big swirling pool of mud, but then the strobe goes off, and you have one perfectly crisp frame.
 
So you have to force the shutter to 1/30, something the 5D does last - after opening iris & increase ISO. Then you quit half of the exposuretime with the mechanical shutter = totally underexposed footage = a new problem.
 
So you have to force the shutter to 1/30, something the 5D does last - after opening iris & increase ISO. Then you quit half of the exposuretime with the mechanical shutter = totally underexposed footage = a new problem.

Have to correct myself: I was referring to the exposure mode of the 5D: First the 5D turns up the ISO, then opens the iris and as a last step lowers the shutter speed. So, together with a 1/30 shutter you also get the iris wide open and an ISO of 6400. The footage would be OVEREXPOSED.

Of course you could control the iris with a manual lens and dial down the ISO some stops after exposure lock. You also loose one stop due to the mecanical shutter which would be set at 1/60.

Finally: I think it would work even with the terribly stubborn exposure mode of the 5D.
 
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