a7s III: RAVISHING Skin Tones (HDR)

jonpais

jonpais

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While there are exceptionally few examples of actual living, breathing human beings in HDR YouTube videos, of the negligible number that do exist, too many suffer from one or more of the following: bizarre colors, excessive noise, outrageously intense specular highlights in teeth, eyes or jewelry and an obnoxious lack of tonality, hues, texture and detail that make them painful to watch.

https://youtu.be/9gtk1NiaJQc
 
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Looks pretty darn good in SDR for me. how do you find grading the Nanlite colors? And you got the Sony 50 1.2! I'm jealous - how do you like it?
 
Is he starting discussion or just promoting his channel and website?

The post is word-for-word from the description for the video. Just copied and pasted here.
 
@Ahalpert The Nanlites have incredibly accurate color reproduction - far better than my previous set of LED lights, which were made by a company named Lishuai and could not be shaped or modified because they were circular bi-color flat panels. The good colors means spending much less time fixing skin tones in post. Being able to shape the light is critical for HDR. I didn’t do any grading per se, just one node in DaVinci where I matched the color chips of the X-Rite Passport with Hue vs Hue and reduced luminance with the color wheels of the HDR palette. It took less than five minutes to correct, a couple extra seconds to drop in some titles, and that’s it. Well, transcoding to ProRes 4444 took a bit! Only one of many features I prefer to FCP, is that I just use the global wheel to normalize exposure of the clip whereas in FCP, the color wheels behave unpredictably and are unsuited to HDR grading. Much is made of the 50mm GM and no question it is phenomenal, but all of Sony’s lenses are spectacular now. I own the 20 1.8, the 35 GM, and 135 GM as well and they are consistently excellent across the board.
 
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Matt Gottshalk said:
Every damn video is a skin tone test.

It gets old quick.
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The goal of my blog and channel is to share my enthusiasm for HDR and to provide information about shooting, grading and delivering HDR video, as information is extremely scarce online, and what there is, much is outdated, incomplete or flat out mistaken. You are right about every video being a skin tone test though - I’ve watched too many myself - and they are real-life lessons on how not to expose and correct for good looking colors. As for HDR, there is next to no information on YT concerning how to grade skin tones. As I stated earlier, there are exceedingly few HDR YT videos with actual people at all. I also share footage so those who are interested can see how the clips handle on their timeline and how easily they grade - my clips have been downloaded over 5,000 times. I really believe it is important to give back to the community, since for years I was the one asking more experienced filmmakers for help.

Cheers
 
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JPNola said:
spammy
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In the past eight years, I have only posted on DVXuser a grand total of 210 times. The threads I start are to share knowledge and express my enthusiasm for Sony. Not so long ago, I shared a link to the most comprehensive HDR workflows in Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve available anywhere on the Web - for free! As I already mentioned, my footage has been downloaded thousands of times. As anyone who’s searched for RAW or log footage online knows, it can be very difficult to find good clips. I’ve also contributed to the wonderful Leeming LUT community, my posts and workflows being viewed by too many to count over the past couple years. I’ve also shared more footage of the Veydra cinema primes - more than any other YouTuber - and it appears that viewers appreciate it. Hope you have a good day.
 
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jonpais said:
In the past eight years, I have only posted on DVXuser a grand total of 210 times. Readers judged my posts helpful 58 out of 81 times. The threads I start are to share knowledge and express my enthusiasm for Sony. Not so long ago, I shared a link to the most comprehensive HDR workflows in Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve available anywhere on the Web - for free! As I already mentioned, my footage has been downloaded thousands of times. As anyone who’s searched for RAW or log footage online knows, it can be very difficult to find good clips. I’ve also contributed to the wonderful Leeming LUT community, my posts and workflows being viewed by too many to count over the past couple years. I’ve also shared more footage of the Veydra cinema primes - more than any other YouTuber - and it appears that viewers appreciate it. Hope you have a good day.
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None of that makes the post any less solicitation.

Lazy solicitation at that, seeing as you just copy / pasted from your channel.
 
JPNola said:
None of that makes the post any less solicitation.

Lazy solicitation at that, seeing as you just copy / pasted from your channel.
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Do you really feel like his post is detracting from this forum? I mean, there are loads of threads I never read because they don't apply to my work or interest me. No big deal
 
ahalpert said:
Do you really feel like his post is detracting from this forum? I mean, there are loads of threads I never read because they don't apply to my work or interest me. No big deal
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Subject matter had nothing to do with it.

Whether it detracts or not is irrelevant.
 
If this doesn’t clip and look wonky on my non hdr phone how can it be described as hdr?

Nice to see some sat after a decade of faiux log.
 
Indeed but you dont adress why HDR looks OK on a 709 ish web interface.

HDR should look flat as anything when viewed on a 709 ish device ??
 
You're watching the SDR version.

When it's a true HDR upload and YouTube recognizes it as one, you'll see HDR in the YouTube settings where you choose a resolution (using your HDR display).
 
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you have to tag that somehow?
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From Google support: HDR videos must have HDR metadata in the codec or container to be played back properly on YouTube. The most reliable way to properly record the metadata is to export from a supported app.

If you're grading your video, grade in Rec. 2020 with PQ or HLG. Using a different configuration, including DCI P3, will produce incorrect results.

Once a video has been properly marked as HDR, uploading it follows the usual process of uploading a video. YouTube will detect the HDR metadata and process it, producing HDR transcodes for HDR devices and an SDR downconversion for other devices.

The following are examples of tools you can use to upload HDR videos to YouTube:

DaVinci Resolve
Adobe Premiere Pro
Adobe After Effects
Final Cut Pro X

Note: Only DaVinci Resolve Studio supports HDR
 
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