Samuel H
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I must say: the N4000 is really light, but even so, I must pull some weights when these events are approaching: after 10 hours there each day, my arm was hurting really badly, even with my lightweight kit.
A7s and Gimbles
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I must say: the N4000 is really light, but even so, I must pull some weights when these events are approaching: after 10 hours there each day, my arm was hurting really badly, even with my lightweight kit.
Samuel H
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I have 3D-printed a handle that allows me to use the brace from the Flycam Nano with the N4000. It helps spread the strain, but it's still tiring after eight or ten hours of use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsgPyWpiQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsgPyWpiQg
I took the Nebula 4000 and A7s with me on vacation a month ago, and it is very convenient to take around. Attached the Nebula to an R-Strap, which let the camera+stabilizer hang off my shoulder when not in use. The stabilizer + camera was not very heavy, so I could easily hold it while walking around without my arm getting quickly fatigued.
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paulcurtis
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Just reviving this thread.
I got the nebula 4000 and it's fun, but feel that it's a little underpowered and flakey. However it's enough to tell me that a gimbal is a really valid piece of gear and that it's something that i would find a lot of use for.
I'm trying to decide between the G2X and the Letus Helix Jr. Both seem pretty able, the letus has more weight capacity which could be useful and stronger motors are probably an advantage. One day perhaps a wireless FF. The Defy appears a bit smaller perhaps, and certainly cheaper.
I've not really found any comparisons or reviews yet, i think they're both really just out now.
I wonder whether anyone has any negatives about either? I notice some problems on youtube with the letus and also the configuration software is the same as the Nebula which appears a bit confusing. The hardware on the Letus says a 32 bit board plus additional work but is the Letus just standard components wrapped together or something more bespoke?
cheers
Paul
I got the nebula 4000 and it's fun, but feel that it's a little underpowered and flakey. However it's enough to tell me that a gimbal is a really valid piece of gear and that it's something that i would find a lot of use for.
I'm trying to decide between the G2X and the Letus Helix Jr. Both seem pretty able, the letus has more weight capacity which could be useful and stronger motors are probably an advantage. One day perhaps a wireless FF. The Defy appears a bit smaller perhaps, and certainly cheaper.
I've not really found any comparisons or reviews yet, i think they're both really just out now.
I wonder whether anyone has any negatives about either? I notice some problems on youtube with the letus and also the configuration software is the same as the Nebula which appears a bit confusing. The hardware on the Letus says a 32 bit board plus additional work but is the Letus just standard components wrapped together or something more bespoke?
cheers
Paul
Paul - I'm in the same boat as you Gimbal wise, and I have been looking closely at the G2x. Small, light, great quality - seems like a winner. My only question is regarding the fact that you can't fine tune the motors with software. So they will pre-load the unit with certain settings, and then you're just able to fine tune manually. But what if you decide to use a different camera? Or want to use a much different lens than the one they used for the pre=tune?
One gimbal that just came on my radar is the Allsteady 6. It just closed on Kickstarter, but I found out the company (TurboAce) has a lot of experience with gimbals and so this isn't a one product start-up.
6lbs weight, can hold up to 8lbs payload, and can be disconnected from the handles to sit on a tripod or crane and controlled remotely. Seems pretty slick, and it seems as though TurboAce has a good reputation on the forums
http://www.turboace.com/Turbo-Ace-AllSteady-6Pro-Packages.aspx
The price is right too - $1600 for a kit that includes a stand, case, controller, monitor bracket, and follow focus bracket.
One gimbal that just came on my radar is the Allsteady 6. It just closed on Kickstarter, but I found out the company (TurboAce) has a lot of experience with gimbals and so this isn't a one product start-up.
6lbs weight, can hold up to 8lbs payload, and can be disconnected from the handles to sit on a tripod or crane and controlled remotely. Seems pretty slick, and it seems as though TurboAce has a good reputation on the forums
http://www.turboace.com/Turbo-Ace-AllSteady-6Pro-Packages.aspx
The price is right too - $1600 for a kit that includes a stand, case, controller, monitor bracket, and follow focus bracket.
I can vouch for the G2X and would highly recommend it. I upgraded from a G2 and it is a terrific upgrade. Super easy to balance. Takes about 3 minutes! Rock steady w/ minimal microshakes. Using it with an A7S, Speedbooster, and Voigtlander 20. However have also set it up easily with other lens combos with and without ND.
paulcurtis
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I didn't realise that, i'll check into that and see what the implications are. Although i suspect this will just be for the A7s, and then the A7s Mk 2 when that finally comes out (i'm guess assuming there will be one!)
I did see that but found so little about it anywhere that had me a bit suspicious. Thanks for the forum link though, i will look through that but would love to see some wider use cases out there
I was wondering whether the software was very generic and would connect to various boards. It's not clear on the Letus site whether they have custom created it all or whether it's off the shelf components.
I think the thing with the Letus Helix Jr is that it can hold nearly twice the weight of the G2X yet is the same kind of overall size. It appears a good thing that gimbal motors are not under stress and so having a more powerful motor may make the experience better. Also at some point i would like to look into wireless FF and that extra weight may be helpful.
Then again the G2X is such a nice size/price set up too.
The Letus makes a big deal about centring around the optical centre of the lens, i can't quite work out what difference that makes to the kind of moves that can be done though...
cheers
Paul
paulcurtis
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A bit more research. It seems the Defy G2X doesn't have different types of modes like the others, just a basic follow type mode. You need the joystick if you want to move it around. Other gimbals offer things like different types of follow (the whole majestic thing) and locking off in a certain direction. From a calibration view there's just 3 settings for 3 different weights of camera. I've gleaned this from watching the videos on the Defy site, there's always the chance i got the wrong idea. I can't find a PDF user guide.
The Helix Jr seems better although it's obviously more costly and there's a UK dealer who's just turned dollars into pounds making it more so. The Helix does appear to be using the normal basecam boards. I was a bit uncertain about that but then realised that actually it's probably one of the most tested boards out there and there's a bit of open source development around that. I've seen demos of remote control and scripting of moves. I don't know whether that would ever work with the Helix but got me thinking about motion control moves and extendibility. So perhaps that is a positive. The motors on the helix are the same as the ones on the full sized rig, they'd even take more that the 8lb quoted apparently.
The Allsteady 6 looks like a bargain. IMHO these guys are let down by their website and parent company name, it just doesn't look or feel serious. But working through that message, the hardware seems good and there's a good comparison video on youtube. Of course the Allsteady is a bigger rig than the others and the level of finish doesn't look as good (even on their main webpage there's an image of cables sticking out of the joystick, unsealed). I believe this is using the same basecam board even though they say it's custom (looking at the photos) but i don't know what the motors are like.
I guess all these are so new to market that not many units have arrived for any real world feedback, is anyone aware of any decent user reviews?
cheers
Paul
The Helix Jr seems better although it's obviously more costly and there's a UK dealer who's just turned dollars into pounds making it more so. The Helix does appear to be using the normal basecam boards. I was a bit uncertain about that but then realised that actually it's probably one of the most tested boards out there and there's a bit of open source development around that. I've seen demos of remote control and scripting of moves. I don't know whether that would ever work with the Helix but got me thinking about motion control moves and extendibility. So perhaps that is a positive. The motors on the helix are the same as the ones on the full sized rig, they'd even take more that the 8lb quoted apparently.
The Allsteady 6 looks like a bargain. IMHO these guys are let down by their website and parent company name, it just doesn't look or feel serious. But working through that message, the hardware seems good and there's a good comparison video on youtube. Of course the Allsteady is a bigger rig than the others and the level of finish doesn't look as good (even on their main webpage there's an image of cables sticking out of the joystick, unsealed). I believe this is using the same basecam board even though they say it's custom (looking at the photos) but i don't know what the motors are like.
I guess all these are so new to market that not many units have arrived for any real world feedback, is anyone aware of any decent user reviews?
cheers
Paul
Hi everyone,
i've erased all my presets for the simple BGC software and i must start from scratch but know nothing about it. i've contacted the manufacturer of my gimbal but got no reply. Maybe they've closed their business. It's the Levefly L10 gimbal. www.levefly.com
I will be using the gimbal only with A7s and 24-70 f2.8 canon lens
My camer'as balanced but all software settings are gone and trying to auto tune parameters will not work well.
Please help
thanks a lot
i've erased all my presets for the simple BGC software and i must start from scratch but know nothing about it. i've contacted the manufacturer of my gimbal but got no reply. Maybe they've closed their business. It's the Levefly L10 gimbal. www.levefly.com
I will be using the gimbal only with A7s and 24-70 f2.8 canon lens
My camer'as balanced but all software settings are gone and trying to auto tune parameters will not work well.
Please help
thanks a lot
Join the Brushless Gimbals group on Facebook. The members are intense. I saw a thread talking about software settings so I'm sure someone there can help.
Maybe try positing over at cheesycam. There are quite a few gimbal blog posts - throw your question up on one of them.
Maybe this will help you.http://eriknaso.com/2014/12/21/nebula-4000-first-impressions-and-hands-on-review/