a6300 vs Alexa!

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xbourque

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So now that I have your attention... :)

Here's "making of" clip I made with the a6300 on the set of a music video that was shot on Alexa.

For lenses I used a Sigma 17-50 2.8 and a Canon 70-200 f/4 with a metabones smart adapter.
Shot sLog2/sGamut3.cine mostly at 800 ISO (a bit higher for the few indoor shots).

For post I did the edit/grade in DaVinci Resolve using Impulz LUTs.

While it's not a true "side by side" comparison, I think it's interesting to watch the a6300 "making of" footage vs. the actual Alexa music video!

a6300 "making of":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ronQNSjKcE

Alexa music video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUhIlPwXM4

--Xavier
 
I like your a6300 look better. Especially the color. :cheesy:

I was watching a horror film called "Sinister" released in 2012 (Ethan Hawke).

Most of it looks like it was shot with a camcorder--dark and contrasty, blown highlights all over the place, terrible dynamic range. (And I don't mean the 8mm stuff).

Later on I was surprised to see these (very expensive) technical specs:

Arri Alexa
Beaulieu 4008 (8 mm segments)
ARRIRAW (2.8K) (source format)
Digital Intermediate (2K) (master format)
ProRes 4:4:4 (1080p/24) (source format)

I was thinking: "My a7sII blows this camera away."

But the look of the movie didn't really bother me because I got pulled into the story.

Alexa shots:

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Sony a7sII 24mm:

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VERY interestng!

Great behind the scenes stuff. Yes, it has a very nice look - which Impulz LUT is this?

The Music Video itself is outstanding. GREAT concept and execution. Very powerful.
 
Viscount Omega said:
I like your a6300 look better. Especially the color. :cheesy:

I was watching a horror film called "Sinister" released in 2012 (Ethan Hawke).

Most of it looks like it was shot with a camcorder--dark and contrasty, blown highlights all over the place, terrible dynamic range. (And I don't mean the 8mm stuff).
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Wow never notived the blown out highlights when I watched that film (had me on the edge of my seat, specially during a certain 8mm section)

Overall the a6300 looked great compared to the alexa, my issue is that rolling shutter and overheating issues make it a only temporary purchase since I dont want to spend the money on the a7r II right now. Also the grading is really great (and something I need to work on as it affects the image so much). What Impulz luts did you use? It looks like 5203 DP if I remember it correctly.
 
ReelFilmGeek said:
What Impulz luts did you use? It looks like 5203 DP if I remember it correctly.
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Wow good eye! Indeed, I used the 5203(DP)_FC Impulz LUT (sLog variant, not sLog2 or 3... I find the "vanilla" sLog more pleasing when shooting sLog2 1 2/3 stops overexposed on the a6300 to keep the shadows in check).

About rolling shutter, one thing I've found is that using "ClearImage Zoom" (i.e. sensor crop) helps a lot, which is convenient because rolling shutter artefacts are the most annoying on long lenses. Check out this other clip I've shot using this technique:

https://vimeo.com/171880954

--Xavier
 
xbourque,

Great looking behind the scenes images! Your color is amazing. Has to be on be some of the best skin tones I have ever scene out of a lower priced Sony camera. So much for the 'Sony Look"!

I am interested in the A7rII, would you think creating this look would be easy for this camera compared to the a6300? Possibly even better?
 
They are both great! I don't "prefer" one over the other, they are both stylistic considerations. I love the music video, incredible work. Thank you for sharing both!

I also have the Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS and the Canon 70-200 4.0. That is a great, affordable kit! The Sigma is an absolute bargain for the quality.

Are you using those with auto focus with the Metabones? I haven't had a chance to try them out on the A6300 yet, but I plan to use mostly my Canon lenses via Metabones.

Cheers!
 
Bassman2003 said:
xbourque,

Great looking behind the scenes images! Your color is amazing. Has to be on be some of the best skin tones I have ever scene out of a lower priced Sony camera. So much for the 'Sony Look"!

I am interested in the A7rII, would you think creating this look would be easy for this camera compared to the a6300? Possibly even better?
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I think the key to good color on Sony cams is Sgamut3.cine. So for for lower price cams, that means a6300 and a7sII at the moment. Regular "S-Gamut" has weird primaries that need special attention in post and isn't very well suited to compressed 8-bit formats IMHO.

The picture profile menu in these cams is quite extensive, so I'm sure good results can be achieved with the a7rII with a bit of poking around though.

--Xavier
 
unadog said:
They are both great! I don't "prefer" one over the other, they are both stylistic considerations. I love the music video, incredible work. Thank you for sharing both!

I also have the Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS and the Canon 70-200 4.0. That is a great, affordable kit! The Sigma is an absolute bargain for the quality.

Are you using those with auto focus with the Metabones? I haven't had a chance to try them out on the A6300 yet, but I plan to use mostly my Canon lenses via Metabones.

Cheers!
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I only had the metabones for 1 day and that was literally the first day I shot with the cam. If I remember correctly, autofocus could be triggered on both lenses with the metabones smart IV but was so slow and hunty that I wouldn't rely on it. (The Sigma 17-50 has pretty poor autofocus performance in general anyways).

Actually, finding a good semi-affordable 17-50 2.8 IS setup on this cam is proving to be a challenge!

--Xavier
 
Thanks for your reply. Sony sure has made it difficult to choose. A7rII has the most to offer but the a6300 produces a beautiful image along with overheating and RS beyond cell phone levels. A7sII has 1080p slo mo and the color mode 3 but only has 12mpx for 2001 still work... :) Looks like we need an a7X model to mop up all three!
 
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