A question about squeeze mode

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mushyosh

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When I had my DVX i always shot in letterbox mode.

A question:

Since I always want the 16:9 look, am i just better off shooting in squeaze mode?

I know that squeaze mode does not utilise all the pixels, but does it have a higher resolution than the 16:9 area in letterbox mode?

Im confused.
 
I'm a little confused myself. You say "when I had my DVX", which seems to imply that you're no longer using a DVX. Yet you're asking a question in the DVX forum...

Anyway, for the DVX both squeeze and letterbox will utilize the same number of pixels. You could also crop in post, which would also use the same number of pixels. I use squeeze because it's convenient, and because I suspect that it could give me a better picture in certain pathalogical situations. (Basically, with squeeze the scaling gets done before compression. It is possible that compression could introduce an artifact that would look worse when scaled.)
 
If you want to display your footage on a 16x9 TV, or master a 16x9 widescreen DVD, use Squeeze Mode.

If you want to display your footage on a 4x3 TV, but have that "widescreen" look, use letterbox mode.
 
Barry_Green said:
If you want to display your footage on a 16x9 TV, or master a 16x9 widescreen DVD, use Squeeze Mode.

If you want to display your footage on a 4x3 TV, but have that "widescreen" look, use letterbox mode.
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why does everyone always say that? wont most videos be seen on both??? if i do the squeeze mode and then watch the video on a 4x3 tv, does it just add the black bars to the top and bottom or does it stretch the image verticallY?
 
If you render a proper anamorphic widescreen DVD, and the DVD and TV set are configured correctly, squeeze will display properly with letterbox on 4:3 TV's and full screen on 16:9 TV's.
 
We originally used letterbox but after advice in this forum we started using SQU and have not looked back since!!!
 
How will 16.9 (squeeze) display on a movie theater screen? Will movie goers see the black bars on top and bottom?
 
I would seriously look into the anamorphic adapter if you are talking about blowup to theatre screen. Although it has limitations and tricky to install it does produce a superior image for blowups.
 
We are shooting a documentary style movie. So I don't know how important crisp resolution is going to be...

I like your quote Bez, I feel the same way. "hand-held all the way!"
 
ShamrockFilms said:
I like your quote Bez, I feel the same way. "hand-held all the way!"
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He he, thanks man, it comes from my dislike of lazy event guys who shoot all day with their camcorder pemanently mounted to a tripod.

I tend to go for that grainy look myself but then it depends on your market. Against my better judgement I nearly splashed out recently and bought the Pana Anamorphic lens (VideoGuys in Aust are currently selling them for $699 (about $490USD??)) but since it's such a pain to work with in event work I resisted and invested in another AZDEN wireless lav mic instead.
 
beziermask said:
invested in another AZDEN wireless lav mic instead.
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Oh please say it isnt so! How much did you pay for it in Aus. just as a point of interest.
 
Hi NCJE, this is a bit OT now but as you asked I got the Azden 200ULT model (twin channel UHF Receiver with two transmitters & mics) for $1,099AUD. I was able to get the same thing from e-bay in the US for $700AUD but I had a job coming up and couldn't wait 2 weeks for USPS to deliver/loose it.
 
ShamrockFilms said:
How will 16.9 (squeeze) display on a movie theater screen? Will movie goers see the black bars on top and bottom?
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That depends. How will the projector be driven, from the camera, a minidv deck, a DVD player? Is the projector native 4:3 or 16:9? There are so many factors, and such a wide range of quality when it comes to projectors, even at major theaters. I have found the quality ranges widely, even from one theater to the one in the next room. Only way to know is to ask a lot of questions and test in advance in the room you'll be using.

DV in general will look soft. SQUEEZE will look a bit moreso. Sharpening actually doesn't do a whole lot of good in that respect, just adds artifacts that will themselves be large and soft. Best thing is accurate focus and a good projector.
 
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