A D3s video

I dont see how this shoot in any way connects to 'photojournalsim'

I think both the big brands peddle a bit of a myth with their DSLR promo videos

Both this and Nocturne use remote FF that cost more than the camera, and employ a (professional?) puller

Fine to do this but it can mislead Joe Average into having expectation that are a little off with what they are going to get from thier DSLR

I would buy the D3s if it came with the girl

Thats marketing I suppose

S
 
morgan_moore said:
Both this and Nocturne use remote FF that cost more than the camera, and employ a (professional?) puller
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i used to pull focus professionally so i guess i'm biased, but if you don't know how to pull focus or know someone who does maybe you shouldn't be shooting dslr video. :-) as for remote rigs they aren't really that expensive to rent should you need them for a particular project.
 
PJs dont rent - we dont do projects we follow actuality - we are ready to roll 24/7

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Dont think I dont respect the art of the puller - I do

My point is that 'the brands' are peddaling a bit of a myth IMO

This was a myth that I bought into with the D90

'Aha - a video camera with a proper look and can take my still lenses'

Two years later Im just begining to get my DSLR into a state where it is almost operable and I almost know how to operate it

And those were not a cheap couple of years either !

miller sticks $2000
mics $400
steadicam pilot $3000
shoudler mount /rails $500
FCP $800
some zoom lenses (!) $1200
SmallHD $900
LCDVF $100
ND filters $100
Spare batt, billy bag, tripod plates, HDMI cables
etc ect

Hocus Focus, Zoom recorder and Pluraleys are still on my shopping list

The most expensive thing another PJ (Dan Chung) has bought is an assistant

With an EX1 you can live without most of this stuff - making the camera cheap cheap cheap

S
 
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You would think that with all that expensive gear and crew, they would have a steadycam in there somewhere. Damn, my wife made me get rid of my "dolly wheelchair" last year! :lipsrseal
 
To me DSLRs present a 'dream' of s3xy footage probably both to people like myself who want to make small scale corporate stuff and move their stills business forward by offereing web video

And of course to indy filmakers

I work mainly by myself and am learning to operate alone - the reason - because clients wont pay for a team of three at the low end - even the regional BBC expects a single operator to produce nowdays - sound, camera -story

Once one introduces more people to a production - unless you a a raft of free student labour to draw on cost spirals - wages food hotels planes - to the extent when hiring a Red becomes a small % of the day cost

Using a DSLR on a multiperson production is therfore IMO a little pointless (unless it is a student indy flick where labour is free)

Therefore demoing a product where it is the wrong tool for the job is promoting a myth


Of course the intelligent readers of this board will understand the implications of choosing a DSLR , over a small chip, steady lensed, on board sound camera

I would like to see demo of use of these tools inremote locations - etc - where they have genuine advantage over larger rigs

It like the advert you see 'taken with a compact camera' - (whose flash is synching up $10k of Profoto strobes pointing at a Storm Model) - yes the 'taken with' claim is true - no - this is not what you will get day to day

the joys of selling

S
 
The new VDSLRS will have many good uses. Have you seen the new Aperture 3?
http://www.apple.com/aperture/


morgan_moore said:
To me DSLRs present a 'dream' of s3xy footage probably both to people like myself who want to make small scale corporate stuff and move their stills business forward by offereing web video

And of course to indy filmakers

I work mainly by myself and am learning to operate alone - the reason - because clients wont pay for a team of three at the low end - even the regional BBC expects a single operator to produce nowdays - sound, camera -story

Once one introduces more people to a production - unless you a a raft of free student labour to draw on cost spirals - wages food hotels planes - to the extent when hiring a Red becomes a small % of the day cost

Using a DSLR on a multiperson production is therfore IMO a little pointless (unless it is a student indy flick where labour is free)

Therefore demoing a product where it is the wrong tool for the job is promoting a myth


Of course the intelligent readers of this board will understand the implications of choosing a DSLR , over a small chip, steady lensed, on board sound camera

I would like to see demo of use of these tools inremote locations - etc - where they have genuine advantage over larger rigs

It like the advert you see 'taken with a compact camera' - (whose flash is synching up $10k of Profoto strobes pointing at a Storm Model) - yes the 'taken with' claim is true - no - this is not what you will get day to day

the joys of selling

S
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I still prefer the look of the D3S to all the other DSLRS currently on the market....
 
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