A bit of life given to the Af100

dcloud said:
Ah. Would love to have this lens. Unfortunately right now, the fund is for bmc :(
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I want that BMC camera as well but I don’t have any fast Canon glass and not sure if a PL adapter is available for it so I decided to get this lens and hopefully when it’s announced the 35-100. Then my native MFT kit will be 7-14, 12-35 and 35-100. This is a nice set. Now if the BMC camera gets a MFT electronic adapter that would be sick! Please don’t say Birger is working on one. Actually a MFT adapter makes more sense than any other since the BMC sensor is a tad smaller than MFT. Field of view and depth of field would be on par with MFT cameras. Maybe if this 12-35 lens takes off someone will want to design such a mount because now Lumix lenses will be seen more as a viable option.
 
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How about the focus ring and a follow focus ? I think it is like the other Pana lenses, right ?
 
Erik Naso said:
I want that BMC camera as well but I don’t have any fast Canon glass and not sure if a PL adapter is available for it so I decided to get this lens and hopefully when it’s announced the 35-100. Then my native MFT kit will be 7-14, 12-70 and 35-100. This is a nice set. Now if the BMC camera gets a MFT electronic adapter that would be sick! Please don’t say Birger is working on one. Actually a MFT adapter makes more sense than any other since the BMC sensor is a tad smaller than MFT. Field of view and depth of field would be on par with MFT cameras. Maybe if this 12-35 lens takes off someone will want to design such a mount because now Lumix lenses will be seen more as a viable option.
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12-70? u mean 12-35 right? or i am missing something? would love to get 12-70!!!
 
Erik, or anyone else using a Tokina 11-16, I'd like to know how the two compare when you have a chance?

If you could have only one, which would it be?

Also, Erik, would love to know your thoughts comparing the 12-35 to the Red Pro Zoom 17-50 that you have?

I'm assuming that since this is a Panasonic Lumix that follow focus will not be repeatable?
 
Robert Eldon said:
Erik, or anyone else using a Tokina 11-16, I'd like to know how the two compare when you have a chance?

If you could have only one, which would it be?

Also, Erik, would love to know your thoughts comparing the 12-35 to the Red Pro Zoom 17-50 that you have?

I'm assuming that since this is a Panasonic Lumix that follow focus will not be repeatable?
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Apple to very large oranges. The Lumix is a run and gun, lets get this done type of lens. It's small but it's native to the AF100 and Gh2. Control of auto focus and Iris is the treat here. I will say this, the lens does not breathe (or at least I haven't seen it breathe). The advantage is mobility and size, while having some auto functions the RED and Tokina will never give you. Apples against BIG ORANGES! Optically, I think the lens is great.
 
Robert Eldon said:
Erik, or anyone else using a Tokina 11-16, I'd like to know how the two compare when you have a chance?

If you could have only one, which would it be?

Also, Erik, would love to know your thoughts comparing the 12-35 to the Red Pro Zoom 17-50 that you have?

I'm assuming that since this is a Panasonic Lumix that follow focus will not be repeatable?
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I wish I could answer that question because I too would like to know. When I get the 12-35 hopefully next week I’m going to give it a real go. I have a shoot next Thursday and Friday that might require more walking dialog shoots. This will be great to test the OIS and wide open shooting. No focus pulling needed.

I like the 11-16 and RED 17-50 a lot. But it has a special purpose for me since its part of my cine lens package. These are my go to lenses when I need to use a follow focus and need more precise mechanics from a lens.
In no way would the new Lumix lenses replace my PL babies. Its just a different tool.
 
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Erik Naso said:
I wish I could answer that question because I too would like to know. When I get the 12-35 hopefully next week I’m going to give it a real go. I have a shoot next Thursday and Friday that might require more walking dialog shoots. This will be great to test the OIS and wide open shooting. No focus pulling needed.

I like the 11-16 and RED 17-50 a lot. But it has a special purpose for me since its part of my cine lens package. These are my go to lenses when I need to use a follow focus and need more precise mechanics from a lens.
In no way would the new Lumix lenses replace my PL babies. Its just a different tool.
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Doing the walk and talks I will use something wide (12mm Hyper, or the Oly 11-22, never wider than the Voigtlander 25, stop down a little and calculate DOF then just stay at a distance that will keep me in focus. How open are we talking about? Would anyone consider letting that AF hunt for walking shots or jib shots? I don't think that would work. Just wondering.

Erik, that's a nice set of lenses. Keep us posted on your results. I like what you said below there "Lenses: more than my wife knows." Ain't that the truth! My wife shakes at the sight of the UPS truck!
 
hscully said:
Doing the walk and talks I will use something wide (12mm Hyper, or the Oly 11-22, never wider than the Voigtlander 25, stop down a little and calculate DOF then just stay at a distance that will keep me in focus. How open are we talking about? Would anyone consider letting that AF hunt for walking shots or jib shots? I don't think that would work. Just wondering.
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I used the 20mm Lumix pancake at 1.7 to get that real shallow depth of field look. Wanted the city in the BG nice and soft. We did a lot of blown out BG as well. Looks very doc like. I liked it. It was different for me. I tried the 25mm Voigtlander first but it had more bounce than I wanted. The 20 helped. I was shooting extreme profiles. Almost behind the talent. Most of the shots where framed from the arm pits to the top of the head. The producer/director wanted a tighter more intimate framing.
This was not easy to do and I had four people total to shoot. The first day I shot two people 5.5 hours straight. The second day the other two. That took four hours. That rig saved me! The 12-35 with OIS would have been perfect for this.

I wouldn’t use AF while I was rolling. Never trusted it on any camera I’ve used.

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One function I completely forgot about was using the function button to create a focus zone. This is much better than just letting the camera figure out what you want in focus which is probably the center of the lens. I just tried it with "focus in red" on to see how it performed and it did a pretty good job with the 20mm Lumix set to 1.7. I put the zone in several different locations and pressed the AF button and it nailed it 95% of the time. When it didn’t I just pressed the button again then it got it right. I never tested or even considered using AF that much but with the 12-35 this could be a real tool we haven't wanted to use or could use if all our lenses are Nikon mount.
 
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thanks for the bts shot. That fig rig looks like it's mighty handy for framing. The Blackbird gets away from me a lot on that kind of shot, being kind of twisted it sometimes sways. I'd be interested to hear how that 12 -35 works out for you. From what I'm hearing here, it sounds like the perfect lens for that type of shot.
 
Chris,

I too am amazed by the focal range incorperated within such few, & small lenses. Add some faster options, plus a GH2, & it makes a versatle, & compact, package that can be carried onboard internationally.

My favorite lens is still the Olympus 14-35/2, but my biggest gripe is it's far from parfocal. Is your 12-35 parfocal?

Thanks,
Bern
 
It is parafocal, but I'm seeing iris clicks while zooming (on the gh2 anyway). It's not horrible iris clicking, but I'm seeing it. Other than that, fantastic lens for the size and having IS. This lens is killing it on the gh2 with Flowmotion 2.02!
 
Re: parfocality, I've noticed it will BRIEFLY lose (then regain) focus if I smash-zoom - as in fraction of a second. Not really a problem since id rarely if ever keep a smash-zoom through the edit.
 
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Erik- is that power steering? :grin:
 
+1 on the HPX-500 & AF-100 pairing. I've been able to get away with using them side by side on certain jobs and as an old-ish Beta shooter, I still favor the 2/3"-broadcast lens tool for getting critical images quickly.
 
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