720p vs 1080p

Maybe I'm doing something wrong in my transcoding in FCP? My 1080/24p footage seems to have noticeable artifacting compared to my 720/24p footage. We're talking fairly stable shot of talking head from a tripod. I'm transcoding to prores 422 for both. Anyone have the same problem, or even better, a solution?
 
I've not had any problem going to the web with 1080 25p. I've not noticed any real difference, frankly.I started shooting 720 but due to the expertise on this board shifted to 1080. It all looks great. I've blown my latest video up to wall size, and it looks fine, other than stupid lighting conditions I could not control (like back lit windows for interviews, etc.). But the format had no problems.
 
Maybe I'm doing something wrong in my transcoding in FCP? My 1080/24p footage seems to have noticeable artifacting compared to my 720/24p footage. We're talking fairly stable shot of talking head from a tripod. I'm transcoding to prores 422 for both. Anyone have the same problem, or even better, a solution?

Are you judging this by your FCP viewer windows?
 
What if I wanted to shoot something in 1080 24p but also wanted to include some slow motion segments by using 60fps? Just combine it with 1080 60i footage?
 
What if I wanted to shoot something in 1080 24p but also wanted to include some slow motion segments by using 60fps? Just combine it with 1080 60i footage?

Two main choices (there are others):

• Shoot your main footage at 24p then shoot the slo-mo footage at 720/60p. You can usually get away with 720p footage on a 1080 timeline if it's well exposed. You may need to do a little smoothing or noise reduction but for slo-mo you usually want that dreamy look anyway.

• Shoot everything at 24p then use Twixtor to slow it down. I've been totally amazed by what Twixtor can do, even with 24p source footage, BUT you have to learn it's limitations and work within them - i.e. be careful about how moving objects cross each other to avoid artefacts.
 
i have a question about 24p vs 60p (or I assume in the UK where I live, 25p vs 50p) by going to 50p you get smooth slow motion when required, however will I lose the sort of filmic jagged kind of look that I'm clearly finding so hard to describe...

Basically does this much desired look come from the 25 frames per second, the progressive nature of the frames or a combination of the two?
 
i have a question about 24p vs 60p (or I assume in the UK where I live, 25p vs 50p) by going to 50p you get smooth slow motion when required, however will I lose the sort of filmic jagged kind of look that I'm clearly finding so hard to describe...

Basically does this much desired look come from the 25 frames per second, the progressive nature of the frames or a combination of the two?

The much desired look comes from a combination of lots of things. It's party frame rate (i.e. 24/25), partly shutter speed (180 deg), party DOF and of course don't forget good colour grading too. If you want slo-mo with not much effort then shooting at 50p will help you achieve it. Provided you can match the shots in colour grading (no reason not to) it's not going to seem out of place.

Another option for slow-mo is to use Twixtor, but this costs money, requires rendering an does have some limitations regarding how objects pass in front or behind others.
 
Shoot your main footage at 24p then shoot the slo-mo footage at 720/60p.

The trouble is, you don't always know what footage you'll want to slow down when shooting. It's in the editing that you sometimes find unexpected scenes that could use it.
 
The trouble is, you don't always know what footage you'll want to slow down when shooting. It's in the editing that you sometimes find unexpected scenes that could use it.

This is certainly true for me - but others seem to plan things more than I can due to the nature of their shooting vs mine ;)
 
MichaelTiemann said:
But 720p24 does give good results (excepting for my experience shooting electronic equipment with LEDs that completely confound all format and matrix settings).[/QUOTE]

Could you please elaborate further on this?
Can anybody chime in?
I'm buying LED lights and it seems you're saying it's a problem?
 
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i have a question about 24p vs 60p (or I assume in the UK where I live, 25p vs 50p) by going to 50p you get smooth slow motion when required, however will I lose the sort of filmic jagged kind of look that I'm clearly finding so hard to describe...

Basically does this much desired look come from the 25 frames per second, the progressive nature of the frames or a combination of the two?

The motion characteristics come entirely from the frame rate and shutter speed. For a typical cinematic motion cadence, you'd want 25p with a shutter of 1/50 (50 being double the frame rate).
 
MichaelTiemann said:
But 720p24 does give good results (excepting for my experience shooting electronic equipment with LEDs that completely confound all format and matrix settings).[/QUOTE]

Could you please elaborate further on this?
Can anybody chime in?
I'm buying LED lights and it seems you're saying it's a problem?

I'm talking about LED lights as subjects, not as sources of illumination. I have a Comer LED light, and it's great for what it does. But God help you if you want to shoot some electronic gizmo that has yellow, amber, orange, red, and deep-red LEDs. To the HMC-150, they all look almost alike, which is just unbelievable to me.
 
When shooting short films I've been shooting 1080 24p. When Shooting certain sports films such as surfing I shoot 720 60p for the great slowmotion. I'm going to whistler in February to film snowboarding and I have no clue what format I want to shoot in. I'd still like to be able to shoot in 1080 30p and use After Effects CS5 slow motion since it seems to be the best. What do you guys think?
 
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