64 bit vs 32 bit

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Angelshare1

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Hi everyone, I have the trial version that is 32 bit for my slow machine. I bought a new computer recently that has 6 Gigs of ram and will have Windows 7 soon. When I buy premiere is there a 64 bit version? You'll have to bear with me as I'm not a computer person. (I think I asked a question that makes sense :))

Also can you add an effect to all clips? I edited a little movie and I realized that it is too dark and would like to lighten the whole thing. Is there a way to do this without going to each clip? I tried exporting to one file and importing it back in but it doesn't look or sound good when I do that. Kind of a copy of a copy issue.

Thanks!
 
No, there is not a 64bit version of Premiere... right now it is only 32bit. However, it's supposed to be "optimized" to run on 64bit machines (whatever that means). It runs fine on a 64bit machine, and it can still take full advantage of 4gig of memory. CS5 is supposed to be 64bit only.
 
That's what I got from the website. They don't seem to come right out and say it though which is why I posted this. It's kind of like, yes it's a 32-bit but by golly it runs great on 64 bit. They have lots of charts and scientific experiments to prove this. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks.

And thanks for the affirmation on putting in the effect on everything. Now HOW do I do it?
 
@angel Hey sorry about that. I didn't fully understand Adobe's explanation about the 64-bit thing. I just purchased a machine and I specifically got a 64-bit because of CS4's ability to work on it.

So I guess what's being said here is a program can work on a 64-bit system but not utilize the 64-bit architecture ?
 
ihatedv said:
So I guess what's being said here is a program can work on a 64-bit system but not utilize the 64-bit architecture ?
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As others have said, premiere can utilize 4 gigs of memory on a 64bit system versus 2gbs on a 32bit system so that alone can offer huge performance boosts. Not to mention once you get premiere, after effects and photoshop going at the same time, you'll want all the ram you can get.
 
ihatedv said:
@angel Hey sorry about that. I didn't fully understand Adobe's explanation about the 64-bit thing. I just purchased a machine and I specifically got a 64-bit because of CS4's ability to work on it.

So I guess what's being said here is a program can work on a 64-bit system but not utilize the 64-bit architecture ?
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You too huh? :grin:
 
bimdas said:
As others have said, premiere can utilize 4 gigs of memory on a 64bit system versus 2gbs on a 32bit system so that alone can offer huge performance boosts. Not to mention once you get premiere, after effects and photoshop going at the same time, you'll want all the ram you can get.
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On a 32bit system you are limited to roughly 3gbs or ram avaliable to the system depending on the motherboard.

What adobe mean by being "optimised" for 64bit is it opens up a small program in the background multiple time and each instance "grabs" 3gb of ram and then it gives it to premiere pro to do as it wishes.

Because it is still a 32bit application, it is limited to 3gb but this is a very cleaver work around.
 
Mike Harvey said:
However, it's supposed to be "optimized" to run on 64bit machines (whatever that means).
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Premiere Pro CS4 is PAE aware, meaning that as a 32-bit program it can access multiple pools of memory. This means that in a 64-bit OS the program can access more than 4 gigs of ram (a limitation of 32-bit software). An adobe engineer told me that somewhere around 22gigs of ram can be accessable in PPro CS4 at NAB.

I can tell you from personal experience that you will be able to have larger projects and larger frame sizes in a 64-bit OS compared to a 32-bit OS running the same Premiere Pro CS4.
 
yeahg , no question about it, 64 bit is the way to go. not only does it address more ram, and run better and faster because of that alone, but the program also runs better all around due to actually using actual 64 bit archetechture. heres what adobe has to say..







What is Adobe announcing?

After optimizing and architecting three versions of Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects for 64-bit systems, Adobe has decided that future versions of Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects software will offer native support for 64-bit operating systems. Because 64-bit operating systems offer superior performance, future releases of these products will not be supported on 32-bit operating systems.
Why is 64-bit so important?

Today's video production workflows benefit tremendously from the additional RAM available on 64-bit operating systems. For example, you can experience 50% to 200% faster high-definition (HD) workflows in CS4 Production Premium by moving from a 32-bit system with 4GB of RAM to a 64-bit system with 16GB of RAM. Performance gains include increased editing speed, rapid switching among tools, and faster rendering — all of which give you more time to be creative. Future releases, because they will offer native support, will provide even greater performance gains by enabling Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects to access more of your system's RAM.
Because of these benefits, the majority of video professionals have already transitioned to 64-bit capable systems, including Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, or 64-bit versions of Windows® Vista® and Windows® 7 operating systems.
Why is Adobe making this decision?

Creative Suite customers benefit from working on the latest hardware and operating systems. The majority of video professionals have already transitioned to 64-bit capable systems, such as Mac OS X Leopard, Snow Leopard, or 64-bit versions of Windows (Windows Vista and Windows 7), prompting Adobe to prioritize development for 64-bit operating systems.
How can I learn more about the benefits of 64-bit in the video production workflow?



Here are some additional resources about the benefits of using 64-bit systems for video production:
Why is Adobe making this announcement now?

Adobe recognizes the investment customers have in our software and believes in giving fair notice of any changes regarding the operating systems and hardware that our solutions support. By announcing our intentions early, we are giving customers who are not yet on 64-bit systems time to plan their migration strategies accordingly.
Will Adobe continue to support the version of Adobe Premiere Pro or After Effects that I am currently running on a 32-bit system?

Adobe plans to continue offering support according to the existing complimentary and paid support programs. For details on these programs, visit the support page.
What kind of 64-bit support is offered in Creative Suite 4?



All Adobe Creative Suite 4 software components are tested on 64-bit operating systems. In addition:
  • Photoshop CS4 Extended offers native 64-bit support for Windows Vista. Native 64-bit support for Mac OS is planned in a future release.
  • After Effects CS4 is architected and optimized for 64-bit operating systems.
  • Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 is architected and optimized for 64-bit operating systems.
  • Adobe Photoshop Lightroom® 2 software supports 64-bit processing, using the advanced memory handling capabilities on the latest Mac OS and Windows systems.
What's the difference between 32-bit and 64-bit operating systems?

With a 64-bit operating systems you get a wider address system and data path, providing access to essentially unlimited RAM. On 32-bit systems, each application is limited to 4GB of RAM (and in practice this number is actually smaller). More RAM means applications can manipulate larger chunks of data, cache more information, and handle a wide range of tasks more efficiently.
How can I be ready for the future 64-bit only versions of Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects?

While Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 and After Effects CS4 run on both 32-bit and 64-bit systems today, we recommend upgrading to a 64-bit operating system to take advantage of 64-bit performance improvements in CS4 and to be ready for future releases that will run only on 64-bit operating systems. Most personal computers purchased since 2005 either are already running a 64-bit system or can be upgraded to one.
What do I need to do to upgrade to a 64-bit operating system on a Mac?

Mac OS Leopard and Snow Leopard are already 64-bit capable and ready to use additional memory. All you need to do is add more RAM to start seeing the benefits.
What do I need to do to upgrade to a 64-bit operating system on Windows?

When you install 64-bit Windows Vista, make sure your hardware drivers are available for the 64-bit edition. Specific Windows Vista 64-bit drivers are necessary to run the hardware - 32-bit drivers do not work. In addition, you must have Service Pack 1 installed on Windows Vista to run CS4.


When running a CS4 product on 64-bit Windows Vista, here are some tips to maximize performance:
  • For Adobe Premiere Pro, use version 4.1. This free update contains changes that allow Adobe Premiere Pro to use more than 4GB of RAM in the system by making multiple instances of itself each time 4GB has been used.
  • For After Effects, be sure you have the 9.0.1 update, and adjust the amount of memory per core for the Memory & Multiprocessing option under Preferences. After Effects will also instance itself, but it does this per CPU core, and each core can use 4GB.
What are Adobe's plans for the other components of Creative Suite? Will the rest of Adobe Creative Suite be 64-bit native on Mac OS and Windows?

Adobe continues to prioritize 64-bit support based on the potential user benefits and the complexity of the code transition. At this time, After Effects and Adobe Premiere Pro are the only products that we are announcing will be 64-bit only in the next major release.
I am a customer running an earlier version of After Effects or Adobe Premiere Pro software on a 32-bit operating system. What are my options for upgrading to Creative Suite 4?

Adobe has a number of upgrade paths available to current Creative Suite customers. Visit the upgrade page for full details on your upgrade options.
What are the recommended system configurations for video production?

For high-end workflows, more memory benefits performance significantly, making a 64-bit operating system essential. From our experience, these guidelines will help you, although your individual results will vary:
Adobe Premiere ProAfter EffectsProduction Premium
and Master CollectionSolid baseline workflow4GB4GB4GBHigh-performance configuration8GB8GB16GBMemory rarely an issue16GB16GB32GB
What does this mean for you?

Most laptops take only 4GB of memory. That will allow for a basic video workflow, but if you can add more memory, you're likely to experience performance gains.
 
I've got a question along these lines. Sounds like adobe's latest software shouldn't be a problem with 64 bit. But what about 3rd part apps like virtual dub/deshaker, handbrake and other programs like that? Is part of the 64 bit setup such that 32 bit apps should work? I use some of these other apps as much as I do after effects.
 
if your talking about vst plugins and other plugins for the apps. i havent had any issues with my 64 bit machine running any of the 32 bit plugins that i have in windows 7 ultimate, but you should really consult the software developers guidlens for system requirements, and/or check their info regarding 64 bit setups.
 
Neil Rowe said:
if your talking about vst plugins and other plugins for the apps. i havent had any issues with my 64 bit machine running any of the 32 bit plugins that i have in windows 7 ultimate, but you should really consult the software developers guidlens for system requirements, and/or check their info regarding 64 bit setups.
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Cool. Thanks for the response. From what I'm finding, everything should work fine (mostly CS4 stuff).

Also looks like virtual dub has a 64 bit version but not all the plugins are available. It sounds trivial but I use deshaker quite a bit (cablecam/zipline stuff).
 
Well I think the move to 64bit is the right one.

The thing is.....with this move are Adobe really going to up their game with effects etc to take advantage of all that lovely RAM.....hardly like they have any excuses not to with the hardware they will be designing for.
 
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