5DII DOES 1080P footage!!!!!!

booggerg2 said:
Just found out that the 5D2 will have AUTO mode ONLY in movie mode. You can lock the exposure and compensate, but it doesn't allow control of aperture or ISO independently from each other. I think the D90 is even better in this regard right? You can at least set the aperture you want to shoot the movie at prior to start recording?
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frisco said:
I question your judgement in many ways........

- Why are you outside?

- Did you want a wife or a grip?

- Bringing that much gear on a Honeymoon is dumb.

- Bringing the wife on a shoot is dumb.

- Your wife is right.

- Your wife is right.

- Have fun trying to buy new gear in the future.

- Are you smart enough to be married?

Have a great Honeymoon and Hope the new 5D is your answer!

frisco
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My wife says you are a man of wisdom and is sorry she didn't meet you first!!
 
And...... The perfect "paparazzi" camera !!!

frisco


Kholi said:
Now THIS is logic. I can see some really great footage from weddings and such coming out of this here beauty. Especially since you can click right over and snap some serious stills.

You know what? Now that I think about it? This Camera (As it sits) would be the perfect Addition to the Wedding Videographer and Photographer's arsenal.

Supreme lowlight aye?
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booggerg2 said:
Just found out that the 5D2 will have AUTO mode ONLY in movie mode. You can lock the exposure and compensate, but it doesn't allow control of aperture or ISO independently from each other. I think the D90 is even better in this regard right? You can at least set the aperture you want to shoot the movie at prior to start recording?
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Please post source. As far as I know AE is lockable.
 
dual said:
Please post source. As far as I know AE is lockable.
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This description came directly from Chuck Westfall.

Since the EOS 5D Mark II controls ISO, shutter speed and aperture value automatically in movie mode, there is no direct user control over these settings. The best way to force a wide aperture is to shoot in low light or with an ND filter. The best way to force a low ISO is to shoot in bright light. It's not realistic to expect that you'll be able to force the combination of wide aperture and low ISO at the same time in movie mode with the 5D Mark II. There is no "program shift" in movie mode with the 5D Mark II to adjust the settings the camera picks. However, it is definitely possible to apply exposure compensation and AE lock in movie mode to override the camera's automatic adjustments to a reasonable extent.
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AE is lockable and you can perform exposure compensation after locking. So it basically works like the HV30.

Unfortunately this set of limited controls means you can't select the aperture/ISO combination that you want, this will be especially annoying in day light since the camera's auto exposure will probably select a reasonably small aperture.

So if you're shooting in good light it will be close to impossible to get to a combination of say.. f/1.4 @ iso 100.

You can always fool the camera by placing a hand over the lens while the camera is gathering its initial auto exposure, but how do you know if it'll open the aperture or increase the ISO? And furthermore how do you know how much of the aperture it will open? There's a big difference between f/1.2 and f/2.8 (on my 85L lens). Do you have to figure out a system of partially covering the lens to fool the auto exposure to open the aperture only to a certain degree?? Phuck that.. that shi*'s way to ghetto to work with..
 
zcream said:
Use a Vari-ND filter, Pol-Fader, whatever it is called. 30 bucks for Pol-Fader version.
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You don't get... increasing the ISO and increasing the aperture results in the same net exposure.. How do you know which setting the camera will increase to acquire the correct exposure?.. Say the camera meters for f4 @ 400 (aperture and ISO acquired here you have no control of btw) but you want f/2.8 for a shallower DOF, so you turn your vari-ND or pol-fader to make less light thru. What if the camera kicks up the ISO to 800 or reduce thes shuuter by a stop and leaves the aperture at f4? You can't get the shot that you want.

Like I said, this limitation isn't such a big deal on a HV30 because the DOf difference between f2.8 and f4 is negligible on the HV30's small sensor so if the camera selects a different aperture than what you had in mind, the result on the image is negligible. However on a big sensor like the 5D2 and the wide range of potential ISO and aperture you can use, not being able to select the precise aperture you want to use is a HUGE deal breaker.
 
booggerg2 said:
You don't get... increasing the ISO and increasing the aperture results in the same net exposure.. How do you know which setting the camera will increase to acquire the correct exposure?.. Say the camera meters for f4 @ 400 (aperture and ISO acquired here you have no control of btw) but you want f/2.8 for a shallower DOF, so you turn your vari-ND or pol-fader to make less light thru. What if the camera kicks up the ISO to 800 or reduce thes shuuter by a stop and leaves the aperture at f4? You can't get the shot that you want.

Like I said, this limitation isn't such a big deal on a HV30 because the DOf difference between f2.8 and f4 is negligible on the HV30's small sensor so if the camera selects a different aperture than what you had in mind, the result on the image is negligible. However on a big sensor like the 5D2 and the wide range of potential ISO and aperture you can use, not being able to select the precise aperture you want to use is a HUGE deal breaker.
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Yes this is a problem. In manual mode there is no auto ISO, but if the movie-mode is fully auto then you won't be able to use a Vari-ND to control ISO and aperture.
 
In that case, the comparison with the HV30 is not appropriate. There is a manual shutter mode and aperture can be locked in 0.2 increments. So there is manual control over shutter and aperture..
As long as aperture is f1.8 or more at full wide, gain does not kick in..
There are similar tricks to the other modes in HV30 as well..
 
dual said:
Come on. Where's the link man?
I wouldn't see a reason why ae is lockable in all other canon liveview cameras and not in the 5d. On my 40d this works just great.
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This was from an exchange on a paid membership forum http://www.digitalweddingforum.com/ so I can't link you to the actual post.

Obviously you did not read my post.. AE is LOCKABLE, but lockable AE does not mean you can dial in the aperture you want to shoot with. ISO, F-STOP, Shutter are ALL automatically selected by the camera in movie mode. YOu can lock the AE so the exposure won't change while shooting, and you can dial in exposure compensation to under/over expose. But that only changes the overall exposure, when you're dialing in compensation, you don't know how the camera is arriving at that exposure.. It could change either aperture, iso, or shutter speed or all of them... Since the aperture affects the look of the image so much, and you have no way of controlling the aperture, the 5D2's movie mode effectively becomes a fancy handycam.
 
Well that makes it harder to verify, but thanks for expaining.
Never the less I can't believe that unless I see for myself. As I said ae is lockable in the other liveview cameras. Sure, what I mean is not "ae lock" but rather "manual mode". You set it in advanced settings in the menu.
This would even be a downer for photographers. I think for many pros it's important to have full manual control, also in liveview mode, you wanna see what you get. And as we know, video mode IS liveview mode.

I believe this camera will rock the house. And it just feels like many people in this forum keep talking about flaws that don't even exist. Where's the vision?

I heard about people hacking the 40D to record video. I'm sure this option is close for the 5D if there's a problem.
 
What's the real difference between the 1Ds MarkIII and the 5D Mark II? The pixel count is very close, I know the 1Ds shoots slightly higher fps but the 5D has a newer processor and has this video mode. Why is the 1Ds so much more expensive?
 
booggerg2 said:
AE is LOCKABLE, but lockable AE does not mean you can dial in the aperture you want to shoot with. ISO, F-STOP, Shutter are ALL automatically selected by the camera in movie mode.
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WTF? Is this a joke? That'd be less control than the D90 gives us. We don't even know the order of priority, do we? Damn you Canon :violent5:
I have a feeling that the order of priority will be Shutter, Aperture, ISO, just to make sure we all get that really pretty 1/30s motion blur, combined with maximum depth of field.
 
Chris: those are the words from Chuck Westfall.. so unless he is not explaining it in a way that makes sense to the video community.
 
absolutely no control over the shutter/iso/aperature in movie mode (even not being able to set it and lock) is WAY worse than 30fps. grrr. let's hope something changes before the release.
 
went to local launch event... got hold of it... damn i didnt have a cf card with me!! wasnt able to test it much out too
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some clips from some guy CLIPS NOT FROM ME..

http://images.aldrichlim.multiply.co...nmid=117209236


mind you that place wasnt that bright. hv20 wouldve had a problem there in 24 1/48.. no info on the iso used though... the guy obviously didnt know how to lock the exposure..
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not best quality of clip but its good enough.. maybe he'll upload at a better res later...
 
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