5D3 - harsh condition re-grading holds up surprisingly well
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Green Hornet
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It's really soft
squig
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erm that's what people like about the 5D.
I always wondered if the fact that the sensor is so much bigger than m4/3 plays a role all of these "it's so soft" comments under EVERY piece of footage posted here. Correct me if I'm wrong but if I wanted to get the same results I get from a 2.8 aperture on a 5d wouldn't I need a 1.4 on m4/3? In other words the sensor is smaller so you have increased dof at the same apertures.
^^^ True about the film stock thing. I have been shooting with GH2 for the past 2 months or so and while I love the resolution the handling of the camera is annoying to me. I like the WYSIWYG lcd screen on the canons, not having to use adapters and changing my aperture on a canon body then putting it back on my gh2, lack of green shift, and the lack of the annoying banding lines that shows up at high isos. When my 5D Mark III arrives this afternoon I'm sure the GH2 will collect some dust for a while.
maranfilms
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I agree, it is a bit soft. compared to the gh2. But it is aesthetic pleasing to my eyes.
Same here, except I sold mine and don't miss it at all, btw I don't think it looks soft, very pleasing look without much sharpening artifacts.
gonzo_entertainment
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And.... amen.
Also, as has always been true, most lenses are sharpest somewhere between f5.6 and f8. I can tell by the bokeh in the background he was wide open or close to it.
refocusedmedia
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If you check the article, you'll see this is just a random piece of footage that Stu from Prolost took from another user's demo video, and re-graded on his own. I don't think the focus was really a concern. The main point here is how great it looks re-graded.
vision_filmz
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Yes, the footage looks soft when compared to the GH2 and other Panasonic Video cameras, but I can honestly say I like the look. Shooting with an Hpx-500 with plenty of lighting can give you some nice sharp footage, but it is difficult to achieve a shallow DOF with that camera, so a lot of times everything is in focus and it just looks weird to me. Now if you were shooting a Music video in a studio then that would be great, but in real world environments I actually prefer the softness of the Canon cameras.
gonzo_entertainment
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He does seem to have pushed it around fairly hard.
dustylense
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I just downloaded the original and graded it in FCPX with magic bullet. Come on guys, this is ISO 5000 shot under crazy light source. I pushed it pretty hard and have not seen much degradation. 5000 ISO!!! It looks soft because the Cam Op is wide open and not focusing very well. I like what I see in the NLE and my 5Dmk3 will be in my hands by Monday latest. 5000 ISO!!!!!! Incredible!
It's likely it's a bit soft like all the 5D3 footage around at present because the sharpness has been dialled down in camera like you need to do on the 5D2 to avoid moire. I suspect that most 5D2 users who pick up a 5D3 are immediately dialling in the same picture style settings that they have been using on the 5D2 perhaps even using the voodoo ISOs 160/320/640 etc This is a new camera & all these settings need to be tested & evaluated again. I am keeping mine on the default settings until I get a chance to properly set it up & I am not seeing that the image is soft.
Alpha Beta Omega
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I never had any real problems with resolution on my mk2 but I had issues with rolling shutter, moire and no audio monitoring.
I don't get all the comments on softness. I don't see it. I think it's really sharp at the focal point relative to any 5Dm2 footage I've shot. If you consider the ISO, it looks incredible to me. What you all are calling softness is exclusively shallow depth of field IMHO.
Cheers,
Pete
Cheers,
Pete