4K Samsung NX 1 now available for pre-order

Ad nauseam Ed, we get it. We are mere camera nerds, wasting our time speculating/measurbating/doing something unworthy, while you sneer from on high. Your irony is the highest form of wit.
 
eddavid said:
and in unrelated news I have the camera, I just shot a feature with it, it just won an Oscar, and I'm not the greatest director in the world, but now the 15th greatest director in the world and that film I shot, "uh oh" got me the attention of Martin Scorsese. And you are still waiting on a rumor to materialize that may or may not happen and therefore may make the camera better, and by 2nd quarter 2015 I may or may not be on a spaceship to Mars while you are still stuck on planet Earth as the world decays and decays more and more.
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Awesome... what's the name of the movie? I would like to check it out. I was just going to buy the camera to take pictures/videos of my kids and family on vacation in thailand... Oh, I'm not sure what the second part of your message means. Must be because I'm not the artisty type like most people who are in the film business.. Oh well, happy holidays..
 
StMad said:
Ad nauseam Ed, we get it. We are mere camera nerds, wasting our time speculating/measurbating/doing something unworthy, while you sneer from on high. Your irony is the highest form of wit.
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In all honesty, anyone who doesn't buy a camera because they saw on a rumor site that "the next big thing is coming in six months" is wasting their time. You can forever speculate while I shoot with the tools that I have. I actually agree with Jim Jinnard on that one, he said the same thing. And he, and Canon, helped start this revolution, where cameras with 28 megapixel sensors can create beautiful imagery for under $2000. And that's incredible. And what have all us snivering annonying camera nerds done in the meantime? Not much. Not much at all. And I'm not sneering from a high perch. I have created really not too much of merit of my own. I have helped some friends make some good films but I have not shot Breathless. So who am I? And I do not sneer at all. I am on the ground with you. Hence why I am still here right now even though I could be right now sitting in Scorsese's lap, on his boat, watching light become dark.
 
Actually Jim Jannard busted the dreams of so many people, promising to deliver a low priced camera for low budget filmmakers and he never delivered. As for Canon starting any revolution.... for a few maybe. In the real world we have to thank Panasonic and its DVX100 for starting the real revolution for low budget filmmakers.
 
John Caballero said:
Actually Jim Jannard busted the dreams of so many people, promising to deliver a low priced camera for low budget filmmakers and he never delivered. As for Canon starting any revolution.... for a few maybe. In the real world we have to thank Panasonic and its DVX100 for starting the real revolution for low budget filmmakers.
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I fully agree on that. The Panasonic DVX100 was arguably the most revolutionary camera ever made - that made the ability to create rich cinematic images in the hands of everyone, when it came out for $3500 in around 2003. Later combined with the Redrock M2 and later the Letus 35mm adapter started the fire that created cameras with 35mm Depth of Field that most of us all use now. And of course the P+S Technic M35 and the Guerrilla 35, the Guerrilla 35 was the original "pipedream" - an adapter few used but inspired so many. My cult leader MacGregor was one of the first people to use this Depth of field adapter. The Red One and then the Canon 5D Mark II, continued on this trend.

And one of MacGregor's disciples is Philip Bloom, who is now very popular. He and me were punting around at the same time with our depth of field adapters, both making little montage reels set to music. Philip Bloom goes off and is highly successful, and here I am, sitting in my parent's basement, groveling away, becomming increasingly bitter with the world as my hair falls out.

Yes Red never made that 3k scarlett but the idea that a 3k video for $3000 was the carrot that kept many of us camera nerds excited for so many years. And also the reason why the high end cinematography camera's prices came down in price, from the Sony F35 which went for $250,000 to now the Arri Alexa which is around $100k.
 
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BTW. The first DSLR with video incorporated was the Nikon D90. Nikon was the one that actually started the revolution on the low end of the market. That they have stayed behind is really puzzling.
 
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And now Samsung Rumors report that there may be an updated version of NX1 coming up sometime in the second half of 2015 - same size sensor, fewer pixels (down to ~ 20 MPX) with the aim of increasing the low light performance and the dynamic range.
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Lol...this was my wish list earlier in this thread. I posted this back on 11/29

True North said:
I would love to see Samsung make a more video specific model, sort of like what Sony did with the A7 series. At 28 megapixels the existing NX1 could be their hi-res photo centered camera.

The NX1S..... :) could be a 20 megapixel back lit sensor offering a significant improvement in lowlight (fewer and therefore bigger photosites on the same sized sensor). At 20 Megapixels it would still make an excellent stills camera. 4K up to 60p, 1080 up to 240fps. It would be ideal if they could change the flange distance so that Metabones could build a speedbooster for this camera but I am not sure if that would screw up their existing lens range. Last but not least, a global shutter sensor and 10bit internal recording.
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The global shutter thing was a bit of a goof as was the 10bit internal recording. I would be very happy with 10 bit external similar to what the GH4 is capable. Without question I would seriously consider a camera with the above specs even if it was more expensive than the current version.
 
John Caballero said:
As for Canon starting any revolution.... for a few maybe. In the real world we have to thank Panasonic and its DVX100 for starting the real revolution for low budget filmmakers.
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On the contrary, films shot on the Canon XL1 were winning Cannes awards long before the DVX100 appeared.

So, I would say it was the XL1/GL1 that started the revolution for low budget digital filmmakers.
 
eddavid said:
Philip Bloom goes off and is highly successful, and here I am, sitting in my parent's basement, groveling away, becomming increasingly bitter with the world as my hair falls out.
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From what I've seen of your work, I would hire you (and your NX1/F35) to shoot one of my projects before I would hire Bloom, and I consider Bloom to be a good shooter.
 
True North said:
Lol...this was my wish list earlier in this thread. I posted this back on 11/29...
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I remember someone posting something in that vein but was too lazy to go dig for it.

It actually makes sense for Samsung, as long as they are not making NX1 into a 6K recorder. One would think that this would be more video oriented too, so 10-bit internal and who knows what else might be a part of the package by then.

Presuming the company goes ahead with their plans.
 
I am sure Samsung has a cinema oriented camera with all the bells and whistles at a very affordable price in their plans. And it will be quite awesome too.
 
So, I would say it was the XL1/GL1 that started the revolution for low budget digital filmmakers.
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Sorry but they did not have 24p capabilities or the Panasonic Mojo. I know because I had a GL1 and, while it was good, it did not start any revolution whatsoever.
 
John Caballero said:
Sorry but they did not have 24p capabilities or the Panasonic Mojo. I know because I had a GL1 and, while it was good, it did not start any revolution whatsoever.
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Sorry, but qualitative points about the lack of 24p or Panasonic "Mojo" do not change the fact that the Canon XL1 initaited the greatest number of people into low-budget filmmaking, long before the DVX100 appeared. The DVX100 was a great camera, and it improved the "film look" of digital footage, but that camera was not as "revolutionary" as the XL1.

I know, because I shot with XL1's on several features early on, and at the time there were a couple of awards given to XL1 films at the Cannes Film Festival, which also gave a boost to the prevalence of the XL1. The fact that it had interchangeable lenses and a lot of manual control is a big part of why it was so popular. The GL1 was the "poor man's" XL1, in spite of anecdotal opinions.

By the way, there was another digital camera that was the next big thing after the XL1 (and before the DVX100) -- the Sony PD150. I shot a few shows on that camera, too (as well as on the DVX100).
 
here's my first test film regraded - raised blacks. Reconverted properily in Wondershare. Thanks to all your feedback:

 
Thanks. Also the wobble is because i was really drunk when i shot it. Learned that tip from a famous dp.
 
Gosh the rolling shutter wobble/jello is on par with cell phones. I would have thought we were past that at this stage.
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These new cameras are meant to be used with lenses made especially for them. Anything else you have to stabilize very tight with a rig and sometimes that doesn't even work either. A tripod is a must. And you also have to be extremely good at focusing otherwise the images are useless.
 
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