3D IS The New Thing!

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So I just got back from watching "A Christmas Carol" in 3D. Despite the film, it was okay. But all the trailers were in 3D. I've only seen animated films in 3D. I've not seen a live action film in 3D yet. So the 3 minute full Avatar Trailer came out, and turned out it was in 3D! I was pretty pumped, and I was blown away from the 3D experience with it. Then Alice In Wonderland came on with 3D and same as Avatar, was mind blowing. Very cool and new.

I watched an interview with some people in charge of 3D and how it works and all a while backl. And they were saying within the next few years just about all movies will be in 3D. I was like that's going to suck. Then after seeing a few animated films in 3D and the 2 trailers in 3D. I can totally agree with them. I mean, I'm sure we can still choose to watch the film in 2D. But as of now I'm going to start going with 3D.

If you've experience any 3D. Not the old red and blue glasses of 3D, but the REAL-D - new 3D style, share your thoughts on it.
 
It's a fad and a gimmick. It was here in the '50s, it was here in the '80s, it'll be gone again soon.
 
I think it's a fad as well. But I do see a benefit to all this. People can't film 3d and pirate it online. If they film 2d, then Hollywood has 3d to entice people to see the real thing rather than viewing it online.

I don't know how they filmed Avatar, but I know Nolan said that when he filmed batman the dark knight he loved shooting the car chase in 3D and would love to do an entire film with it, but right now the cameras are really bulky and so noisy they can't blimp it and record on set dialogue.
 
This is the only 3D camera rig that I know of. The one with two cameras set at the eye's point view.

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I think even the 2 dvx aren't close enough together. It is suppose to be something like 2 1/2 " between lens centers. Most crews use beam splitters like the P&S.
 
Despite hardware and etc.


I've done extensive research on 3D and have seen not only Avatar, and other film trailers in 3d... but I've seen HD soccer games, and other sporting events in 3d... and let me tell you... there is a BIG future for 3D. The events weren't like major ones, but tests and what not.

It's hard to get sports in 3d if the cameras can't get close though.

The difference between 50's , 80's and today is technology. It's a totally different way of capturing, playback and viewing. We are now alternating polarized images to our left eye and right eye. No longer is color quality completely compromised. It's no longer just for gimmicks... most of the time it's just a slight added sense of depth. Nothing flying at you and etc.

I'm going on record to say it's here this time to stay. And ironically Panasonic already has television's which can play back the 3d, so it won't even be a saving grace for the theater industry.


And this is nothing new. I felt this way a year ago when I viewed that short film where the guy replaces the bulbs on the Hollywood sign. It was a demo on a 3d television. Nothing flew out at the viewer, but there was a strong added sense of the third dimension in the video
 
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Where did you see Soccer in 3d?! I cant imagine any sport in 3d! Definitely can't wait for 3d football. mm, they should debut 3d football for the super bowl or something.
 
Jon Starr said:
I think it's a fad as well. But I do see a benefit to all this. People can't film 3d and pirate it online. If they film 2d, then Hollywood has 3d to entice people to see the real thing rather than viewing it online.

I don't know how they filmed Avatar, but I know Nolan said that when he filmed batman the dark knight he loved shooting the car chase in 3D and would love to do an entire film with it, but right now the cameras are really bulky and so noisy they can't blimp it and record on set dialogue.
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I think you are confusing 3D rigs and the Imax film format... which is around 65mm. Not 3D. To the best of my knowledge, The Dark Knight was not shot with dual Imax cameras on a 3d rig.

Although 3D rigs still have the same bulkiness and noise problems as 65mm or Imax cameras have. I imagine using two Arri 235's would reduce size enormously.

Most films offered in the IMAX 'experience' are not actually shot on 70mm Imax film. There was an interesting article I read about a year ago, how IMAX was basically selling out their name, and standards are being lowered. Not saying it's garbage... but lots of films on IMAX screens are just 35mm color negative films uprezzed to 70mm by proprietary IMAX machines. Not saying it's bad, but I am saying that lots of it isn't true IMAX.


Plus the screens are even getting smaller... lol. So what now?
http://www.lfexaminer.com/20081016.htm
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/11/why-you-probably-shouldnt-waste-5-more-for-digital-imax/
http://azizisbored.tumblr.com/post/106587114/reblog-the-poo poo-out-of-this-warning-amc-theaters-are


So tell me if I have this wrong... IMAX screens are getting smaller, to the point that they are just bigger then a normal screen... and on top of that... most IMAX 'experience' films are shot on 35mm (S35mm) color negative to begin with, uprezzed to 70mm and then projected onto a slightly larger screen? And THAT is IMAX?

I dunno. I had friends who wanted me to go see 'Where the Wild Things Are' at an Imax screen. I knew that Lance Acord had shot the film on 35mm color negative and not 70mm imax... so I declined and saw it on a normal screen... the way it was intended to be shown, on a 35mm release print, the way it was meant to be shown.
 
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I've only seen two films in real 3d I mean, with the polarized glasses and enough quality to watch it for 1h 30'. One was animated (UP) and the other one was a normal live action film (I think it was final destination...). Anyway, I loved it, I think that it is a whole different world of quality. I don't mind wearing some glassses if the depth of the image, which has been one of the things I didn't like about films (the lack of depth), comes back alive. I love the way things come to live, the film feels way more realistic (if done properly). And has a great potential to enhance user experience (again if used properly).

I don't know, I think that 3d nowadays doesn't have an atom similar to 3d some years ago (with those red blue glasses that their only achievement were some headaches....).

anyway,

I say this not knowing what it is behind 3d production, what it involves during shooting and all the stuf around it, I say this just as a sole viewer...
 
"This is the only 3D camera rig that I know of. The one with two cameras set at the eye's point view."


You can fab one of these with just about any two identical cameras. There was a guy here in Tampa, FL doing this with a couple consumer cameras and the footage came out pretty good. All you need is to measure the distance from eye to eye "centers" and that will give you a 3D filming setup. Hmmm maybe even two, 5Ds, D90s or GH1s

I've always wanted to shoot 3D dirty horror flics kind of like grind house films with one.
 
Ryan Patrick O'Hara said:
I dunno. I had friends who wanted me to go see 'Where the Wild Things Are' at an Imax screen. I knew that Lance Acord had shot the film on 35mm color negative and not 70mm imax... so I declined and saw it on a normal screen... the way it was intended to be shown, on a 35mm release print, the way it was meant to be shown.
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I would have done the same. Seeing an IMAX film and seeing a 35mm film in an IMAX theater are two completely different things.

Seeing TDK in IMAX and actually feeling the difference when they go to IMAX shots was jaw dropping.
 
twocik23 said:
"This is the only 3D camera rig that I know of. The one with two cameras set at the eye's point view."


You can fab one of these with just about any two identical cameras. There was a guy here in Tampa, FL doing this with a couple consumer cameras and the footage came out pretty good. All you need is to measure the distance from eye to eye "centers" and that will give you a 3D filming setup. Hmmm maybe even two, 5Ds, D90s or GH1s

I've always wanted to shoot 3D dirty horror flics kind of like grind house films with one.
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Or really any two of the same cameras. Just set them up and align them the way they need to be set.

Has anyone seen the 3D plug-in over on YouTube where you cross your eyes? Here's a good one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RFuRY7azgA - I recommend watching it in full screen.

and what's fun about that selection at the bottom, below the video you have a few options to play with. Quite fun and interesting.
 
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