3D IMAX Wizard of Oz!

groveChuck

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One week only, this week, (opened Friday) then it goes to 3D Blu Ray, Blu Ray and DVD.

If you're of a certain age (and I am), this was a special yearly TV event on CBS.
In color, glorious Technicolor! (one you're out of Kansas, of course...)

But it looks like they're doing this one the right way, working off the original Technicolor 3-strips!
Pretty darn cool, I'm looking at a Tues/Wed showing.

You can have Avatar, I'll take the flying monkeys...

http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/the-wizard-of-oz-imax-3d-conversion-1200610859/

Audiences will not only view “The Wizard of Oz” in 3D for the first time but they’ll be shown details even the pic’s most devoted fans have never seen before, thanks to a collaboration between Warner Bros., Prime Focus and Imax.

Warner Bros. Motion Picture Imaging went back to the original 3-strip Technicolor negatives to do both photochemical and digital restoration. That Technicolor process used three black-and-white negatives, one for blue, one for green and one for red. Then those three records would be printed onto a single strip of release film, in a process that was more like printing a book than a photographic print.


The picture had been remastered from different prints for each of its seven previous homevideo releases, but there had never been a digital restoration that used the original negatives.
As it turned out, the camera negatives were safely in a vault at the George Eastman House and in fine condition. However after 70 years they’d shrunk and no longer aligned properly. So after they were scanned, they were digitally altered to align again.


The digitally restored scenes reveal more detail than audiences saw in 1939, because the negatives couldn’t be perfectly aligned for printing in that era. Also the dye-transfer prints of the time, while famous for their rich, luminous color, were also a bit soft.
“The photochemical restoration had been done before on this feature, I think it was 1987,” was not entirely successful,” said Ned Price, chief preservation officer for Warner Bros. Technical Operations. “Because the three-strip Technicolor process was not meant to create a color negative. So when we made a color negative we had cross-color contamination.”
That problem was solved when the picture was put through a modern digital intermediate process, where the color was corrected and even set to match the look of a a dye-transfer print — but sharper.


After the film was restored, it was turned over to Prime Focus for 3D conversion. It’s the oldest picture ever converted to stereoscopic and the process took 16 months — far longer than the time spent to convert most features.
Warner’s Price oversaw the conversion, and he says one of the more difficult challenges was simply deciding what the 3D should look like. How much depth should there be? What, if anything, should seem to be in front of the screen?


“You’ve got executives who typically say ‘Give me 3D. I want more 3D, I want more 3D.’ And then it wasn’t right for the feature,” says Price. “The feature has a lot of depth to it, but we didn’t want to make the 3D the first thing you notice about the film.”


They considered keeping the black-and-white scenes in Kansas flat and going to 3D when the action shifts to Oz. “We thought it’s natural: Start flat and open it up. But strangely enough it didn’t look that good.” So Kansas does have some 3D depth, though Oz has much more.
Price says his own tastes are “conservative” and as a result, the resulting 3D is easy to watch and “unobtrusive.”


“I don’t like 3D unless it’s really good 3D,” he says. “So I was probably a good pick to rein in the people we worked with. They’re very good people over at Prime Focus but I think I kept them honest.”


While the Witch’s Flying Monkeys seem like a natural for “3D moments,” in fact they mostly fly side-to-side, says Price. Instead, it’s the Witch herself who pops in 3D.
“She’s sort of angular and pointed, she’s just my favorite,” says Price.


Once restoration and 3D conversion were complete, the picture was handed the picture over to Imax for additional sharpening and de-graining so it wouldn’t look fuzzy and noisy on a giant screen.


“We really lucked out,” said Lorne Orleans, senior VP of film production for Imax. “Our latest generation of tool, which was in Beta a few months ago, allows us to extract a lot more detail out of information that we’re given.” The latest Imax “DMR” tools scan several frames at once to gather information. This kind of “temporal imaging” reveals more detail than any single frame can.


“It gives us, if we want it, a completely noise-free version of a film, with all the details brought back.” So audiences will see the burlap texture on the Scarecrow’s face, Dorothy’s freckles and other tiny details that were invisible when soft prints were transferred to video.


Even Feltenstein is enthusiastic about the result.
“I went from being skeptical to being amazed when I saw a test screening, and (wondering) ‘How did they do it?’”


The theatrical release will run only a week, starting Sept. 20, but on Oct. 1 Warner Home Video will release a 5-disc 75th Anniversary edition of “The Wizard of Oz” including 2D and 3D Blu-ray, DVD and Ultraviolet versions, as well as documentaries and other bonus features.
 
Okay, looks like I might be able to shoehorn a 4pm viewing into my schedule tomorrow.

Thanks for the notice!
 
IMAX isn't widescreen. It's actually closer to 4x3 than to 16x9.

That's what I was thinking... I think the Wife and I are going to see it tomorrow. Unfortunately it is not closed captioned... so, for her it will be a 'less than' for that reason. I'm up for buying the announced release on BD... birthday present for the aforementioned Wife...

Personally I could do without the 3-Dness... just restored print would be good for me...
 
Excellent, glad to hear it! How was the 3D?

As a wee young 'un, I watched it on a B&W TV with rabbit ears, and it still went to color in Oz! :happy:

But yeah, IMAX is nearly square, this should be perfect for it.
 
The 3D was good. I noticed it more in the beginning; including the opening credits. After a while, only an occasional shot would remind me I was watching it in 3D as it obviously wasn't filmed with 3D in mind.

Mostly, I noticed it was a nice, clean print and that things like the wire that moved the cowardly lion's tail was erased.

Also, it didn't fill the entire width of the IMAX screen. Probably a 5% crop on either side. So, yeah, pretty much square.
 
I was able to go to a showing yesterday, and was 'impressed' with the restoration of the visuals... wish they could have just made an IMAX 2-d version and I would have paid just the same...

But... the audio was really 'harsh'. The Wife who wears hearing aids, also was negatively impressed, but we often can't tell if it just because of her loss or 'bad audio'. But in my case, hearing the audio, it was clear that the restoration did not give the audio the same full fare that the visuals got.

In terms of the visuals, given that often when an 'old movie' is digitized one sees any number of defects in the makeup, costumes, sets, etc. I was impressed with the 'lack' of such artifacts in the case of WOZ. Now it could be that they retouched each frame to minimize such defects... but the result was impressive.

3-D... for me... 3-D always has had a 'contrast' issue... and initially I was aware of a 'milkiness' in the image... but in many of the full 'technicolor' shots, that seemed to be less so... it was only when there was a fairly 'dark' region of the shot that, to my eyes, there was less contrast than I'd expect.

I'd recommend the film to anyone who has the time... especially for those who grew up watching the film on TV...

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Here's the kicker... given that the film was made during the height of the power of the Hays Code, given that it was shown on TV for years in an era where even a married couple couldn't really be shown having a 'double bed' in their bedroom...


What's with the PG rating????
 
Imax is good. 3D is ****. Maybe I belong to the previous generation eventhough Im still 25, but I should say 24p is my favorite, 3D is a pain to watch.
 
That sounds like a generalized statement and not one related directly to the topic of this thread. I'm not a big fan of 3D which, by the way, has been around far more than your 25 years, but it didn't bother me in this case.

Bottom line for me: I enjoyed the movie and am happy I got to see it in a theater.

As to the question of why the PG rating, which I managed not to notice, I would agree: Flying Monkeys. Well, that, and to keep the screaming rug rats from disturbing the rest of us. ;)
 
That sounds like a generalized statement and not one related directly to the topic of this thread. I'm not a big fan of 3D which, by the way, has been around far more than your 25 years, but it didn't bother me in this case.

I've been known to lament the 'colorization' that a number of classics endured to be 'modernized'... However, I must say, other than my general 'dislike' for 3-D, I wasn't horrified by the post processing on WOZ...

Now if they post process "Citizen Kane"(1941) to 3-D... sacrilege...

On the PG front... WOZ was original classified with the current MPAA ratings as G, in 1970 or so, however for the 3-D production it was reclassified as PG... I realize that flying monkeys and school teachers turned actresses can strike terror in the hearts of the young... but I'm still mystified by the change in rating...
 
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Wow, talk about a disappointing experience...

My wife and I are sitting in the theater (first time I've been to an AMC IMAX, I'd only been to the original IMAX theaters).
A 3D (Hobbit?) trailer comes on, I say, "Wow, that looks weird", play with my 3D glasses, it feels like the right lens is warped, so I run to the lobby and get a new pair.

Re-enter as Oz is starting (p!ssed off, I never miss even 5 seconds of a movie), look up from my sweat seat in the very center, and it still looks weird! Trade glasses with my wife- the same. And now she sees it.
A line around everything (especially the right side, I think?), a LS of the four main characters looks almost like 8 characters, a CU of Dorothy's face looks like she has 4 eyes! WTF!!!

I've probably seen less than half a dozen 3D films (half shot in 3D, half created in post). Is there some kind of alignment or something?

Nothing I could do at that point but get into the story and sound...

See the manager afterwards, he says nobody had complained all week and he'll check it out next screening, I say "that was the last show, it's leaving". "Oh" he said. He said he'll still watch it later with the projectionist, if they see anything, they'll let IMAX know. He said IMAX sent someone there in less than 8 hours when there was a problem (they're very concerned with optimal image), but that doesn't help us.

The manager was very nice, truly concerned (!) and yes, gave us free tickets.

But I wanted 3D OZ, not double the characters! ...sigh...

still love the flying monkeys, though... I read that a midget "animal impersonator" played the head monkey... that explains the good head and body movement in his performance...
 
Well, crap!

Sorry to hear that. I'm not a 3D fan or, for that matter, an aficionado, but at least my viewing was not distracting.

Thanks for the heads-up! :thumbsup:
 
Yeah, I didn't even go for the 3D but rather for the restored print, big sound, big screen IMAX experience.
3d came after all that and yet ended up detracting from the viewing experience! D'oh!
but I'm glad you and some others got to see it! Kids today, well, that's another story! Haha!
 
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