35mm-look Plug-in?
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cheezweezl
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a plug to make video look more like film? yes, tons of them. google it. magic bullet is a good place to start.
a plug to give 35mm-like shallow depth of field to video. not so much. that would be a pretty tall order.
a plug to give 35mm-like shallow depth of field to video. not so much. that would be a pretty tall order.
CaptainMench
Carbonite Member
Is DOF the only thing you want from the 35mm adapter? There are many things that go into a 'film look'.
What camera are you using? You can get some good DOF with the DVX if you light properly... 'good' DOF.
But that's not the whole story.
CaptM
What camera are you using? You can get some good DOF with the DVX if you light properly... 'good' DOF.
But that's not the whole story.
CaptM
cheezweezl
Veteran
what does lighting have to do with dof? actually the shallowest dof comes from being wide open and long on the lens. so generally less light in a smaller area would be required. true, you can get filmlike shots this way without an adapter but you are very limited framing-wise. only really works on closeups. with an adapter you an get shallow dof even on wide shots.
and yes, you can fake it by using multiple layers, a good lens blur plug, and lots of rotoscoping but at the end of the day, it still looks fake and you probably could have reshot it in less time. last resort method in my mind.
and yes, you can fake it by using multiple layers, a good lens blur plug, and lots of rotoscoping but at the end of the day, it still looks fake and you probably could have reshot it in less time. last resort method in my mind.
Richard J. Johnson
Joystick Member
I was way too poor to afford a Letus Extreme, but I got my hands on one. If you really want it you can get it. If you have a camera and an editing program, You already have the money. Do like I did shoot a few music videos for cheap to raise the money. Adapters are expensive, but if you have the equipment post on craigslist. I got plenty work and was able to get the LEX, rails, tripod, and a couple of lenses.
CaptainMench
Carbonite Member
Lighting has everything to do with creating a film look with video... but that's not what I said. I did mean proper lighting will let you crank open the iris without blowing the footage out. Yes, close up... but again... you can get 'good' dof. Not great!!
Can't fake that.
CaptM
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cheezweezl
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ahhhh, i gotcha. i guess "good" dof is really a subjective thing. here's something i shot a long time ago with a dvx. no 35mm adapter, no rotoscoping. just utilizing the long end of the lens and iris wide open. i don't think i even used any "film look" plugs. just basic color correction and some diffusion here and there.
http://www.fisherfilmworks.com/Hide%20and%20Seek_files/hideandseekmedium.mov
CaptainMench
Carbonite Member
Ok... that 'sucks'.
sheesh... now I want one of those!!
CaptM
sheesh... now I want one of those!!
CaptM
cheezweezl
Veteran
what sucks? the dof? really?
Having shot 33 hours of footage with two DVXs in September, I would say the one mistake we made is treating the DVX too much like a film camera, especially with establishing shots. If I could do it again, I would know the camera's sweet spot a little better (steer clear of wide shots) and concentrate on getting the most out of the DVX and not making it look like something's its' not. Maximize the camera's personality and make it look good, whether or not that looks like film or not.
DecadenceFilms
Active member
I agree with markyf
A great many filmmakers are obsessed with making video look like film.
At the end of the day, if you want it to look like film shoot on film or at least use an adapter.
The time spent in post creating a passable effect costs as much in lost opportunity time. You could work that week or two weeks to raise money to hire a 35 mm adapter. Or pay someone a very small fee to let you borrow one.
It's best to look at a camera the way artists view their media. Which one gives you the best texture for the work you are trying to create?
DV gives a wondefully gritty and real feel to proceedings making it excellent for social drama and intimate stories.
If you can only afford to shoot DV then choose stories that work better on DV.
If your story requires sweeping panoramas and requires an epic quality, make it on film.
A great many filmmakers are obsessed with making video look like film.
At the end of the day, if you want it to look like film shoot on film or at least use an adapter.
The time spent in post creating a passable effect costs as much in lost opportunity time. You could work that week or two weeks to raise money to hire a 35 mm adapter. Or pay someone a very small fee to let you borrow one.
It's best to look at a camera the way artists view their media. Which one gives you the best texture for the work you are trying to create?
DV gives a wondefully gritty and real feel to proceedings making it excellent for social drama and intimate stories.
If you can only afford to shoot DV then choose stories that work better on DV.
If your story requires sweeping panoramas and requires an epic quality, make it on film.
very nice!
So, i went out and purchased Magic Bullet. It has a few good plugs that I enjoy, but I'm having an issue still.
it seems that when I choose something with diffusion, it leaves some kind of D watermark on my final output of the file when it goes back to final cut as well as a thin line that can be seen.
Any clue how to get rid of this?
thanks for everyone' help!!
