24pn to 8bit Uncompressed Pulldown issues

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TimR21

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Hey Gang,

It's my first post here, and I'm sure this has been covered - though I can't seem to hit on the right search terms find a discussion of it. Please post a link if you know where the answer is...

I shot some material at 24pn at 60fps (overcranked/slo-mo). The footage in FCP on a 720p24 timeline looks incredible (naturally). When I take the clip and drop it onto a timeline setup with FCP's 8Bit Uncompressed preset (29.97 SD - to output to BetaSP) and render it, it adds a pulldown and the motion looks a little sticky. Since what I was shooting was a close-up of a waterfall the stickiness is more pronounced in the fluid motion of the water.

I understand that a pulldown has to be added to work out the math between 24 and 29.97, but is there a way to make the motion look more fluid - or is it just the nature of the beast?

Thanks,
TimR><>
 
I'm gathering from reading other posts that it is the nature of the beast.

Why don't I notice this type of stutter in network broadcasts of film originated shows? Presumably they're shooting at 24fps and broadcasting at 29.97?

Thanks

TimR><>
 
You need to edit with a 24 fps timeline and then output to 29.97 with a pulldown. All 24p has a 3:2 pulldown when broadcasted to 29.97.
 
You cannot just drop a 24p file into a 29.97 project.
You must use Cinema Tools to add the pulldown and
conform to 29.97
 
Doesn't conforming a 24fps clip to 29.97 cause speed issues? i.e....wouldn't it be playing it that much faster?
 
Ok....after much experimentation and research...I think this is the answer....please correct me if I'm wrong.

To play 23.98 footage out to BetaSp or other 29.97 tape format I either add the pulldown back in using FCP's built-in pulldown insertion....or I run the clip through AfterEffects and add the pulldown there. Either way it looks great to me and the motion is nice and smooth.

Sound right?

Thanks,
TimR><>
 
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