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Guest
Guest
Hi
Are there any issues with slowing down footage shot on a DVX100 24p or 24pA
Thanks
Wollice
Are there any issues with slowing down footage shot on a DVX100 24p or 24pA
Thanks
Wollice
BLUESPIDER
DVXuser Ninja
Re: 24p slo mo problems
The best way to know is to try it. Thats what a film instructor told me.
The best way to know is to try it. Thats what a film instructor told me.
OctoberPro
Member
Re: 24p slo mo problems
I can usually slow down to 59% with Vegas as long as you disable resample.
I can usually slow down to 59% with Vegas as long as you disable resample.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Re: 24p slo mo problems
24P is the worst format to try to slow down. You'll get much better results from slowing down 60i.
The smoothest slow-motion possible is to shoot your slow-mo segments in 30P, and then play them back at 80% speed on a 24P timeline. It's frame-for-frame accurate smooth slow motion, but not very slow.
You can get super-smooth slower slow motion by shooting 60i and playing it back at 40% speed on a 24P timeline.
Using other speeds (like 75% or whatever) will cause jitter and not be smooth.
24P is the worst format to try to slow down. You'll get much better results from slowing down 60i.
The smoothest slow-motion possible is to shoot your slow-mo segments in 30P, and then play them back at 80% speed on a 24P timeline. It's frame-for-frame accurate smooth slow motion, but not very slow.
You can get super-smooth slower slow motion by shooting 60i and playing it back at 40% speed on a 24P timeline.
Using other speeds (like 75% or whatever) will cause jitter and not be smooth.
G
Guest
Guest
Re: 24p slo mo problems
Question for you guys. When doing slo mo you loose rez when you play back 60i @50%. On the other hand you get jumpy footage if you slow 30P down by 50%. This is well understood but...
Could you get what "60P" MIGHT look like (I know its not a regular format) if you used Twixtor on 30P footage to create inbetween frames making it 60 progressive frames? If so, can it be seen in that format under NTSC/DVD standards? If not and its forced to change to 60i do you gain anything by going thru the process v.s. shooting 60i in the first place?
Question for you guys. When doing slo mo you loose rez when you play back 60i @50%. On the other hand you get jumpy footage if you slow 30P down by 50%. This is well understood but...
Could you get what "60P" MIGHT look like (I know its not a regular format) if you used Twixtor on 30P footage to create inbetween frames making it 60 progressive frames? If so, can it be seen in that format under NTSC/DVD standards? If not and its forced to change to 60i do you gain anything by going thru the process v.s. shooting 60i in the first place?
Thistlebop
Well-known member
Re: 24p slo mo problems
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Events;num=1100056946;start=0#3 date=11/09/04 at 11:17:53]24P is the worst format to try to slow down. You'll get much better results from slowing down 60i.
The smoothest slow-motion possible is to shoot your slow-mo segments in 30P, and then play them back at 80% speed on a 24P timeline. It's frame-for-frame accurate smooth slow motion, but not very slow.
You can get super-smooth slower slow motion by shooting 60i and playing it back at 40% speed on a 24P timeline.
Using other speeds (like 75% or whatever) will cause jitter and not be smooth.[/quote]
But would it be possible to mix both the 30P (if ya play it back on an 80% timeline) and the 24P footage togeather without any problems ?
--Bop
[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Events;num=1100056946;start=0#3 date=11/09/04 at 11:17:53]24P is the worst format to try to slow down. You'll get much better results from slowing down 60i.
The smoothest slow-motion possible is to shoot your slow-mo segments in 30P, and then play them back at 80% speed on a 24P timeline. It's frame-for-frame accurate smooth slow motion, but not very slow.
You can get super-smooth slower slow motion by shooting 60i and playing it back at 40% speed on a 24P timeline.
Using other speeds (like 75% or whatever) will cause jitter and not be smooth.[/quote]
But would it be possible to mix both the 30P (if ya play it back on an 80% timeline) and the 24P footage togeather without any problems ?
--Bop
versioncity1
Active member
Re: 24p slo mo problems
Firstly I'm no editor, but I shot some footage recently for a music video @ 24speed and the editor had no trouble with slowing it down (Avid suite) we could take it down to whatever speed, ramp it, stop frame it and it looks great.
Firstly I'm no editor, but I shot some footage recently for a music video @ 24speed and the editor had no trouble with slowing it down (Avid suite) we could take it down to whatever speed, ramp it, stop frame it and it looks great.
Barry_Green
Moderator
Re: 24p slo mo problems
[quote author=Thistlebop link=board=Events;num=1100056946;start=0#5 date=11/10/04 at 04:13:07]
But would it be possible to mix both the 30P (if ya play it back on an 80% timeline) and the 24P footage togeather without any problems ?
--Bop[/quote]
Depends on your editing program. I do it in Vegas all the time.
[quote author=Thistlebop link=board=Events;num=1100056946;start=0#5 date=11/10/04 at 04:13:07]
But would it be possible to mix both the 30P (if ya play it back on an 80% timeline) and the 24P footage togeather without any problems ?
--Bop[/quote]
Depends on your editing program. I do it in Vegas all the time.