24p or 24pn

RE1000

RE1000

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If I want to use 24p footage to mix with regular interlaced footage, which would I shoot in?
If I want to make an only 24p project, would I then use 24pn?

I'm just a little confused as to when to use which. The 720 Native Capture seems great to use, (takes up less space) but i'm not sure if I would be able to use that all the time, and if I can mix with regular interlaced video. I don't have a hvx200 yet, but will have one very soon. I searched around but didn't find an answer.
 
24pn will give you more space but you will have to add pulldown to convert it to 29.97 24p material to work with your other interlaced footage. This is not complicated but is an extra step. Depending on what editing software you use, the software may add the pulldown for you. Final Cut does this but does a rather rough-looking job of it. A motion graphics program like After Effects does a better job of adding pulldown smoothly. I have shot 24pn and successfully integrated it into a 29.97 project, but knowing what I know now I would only do it again if I knew the project would have limited camera motion (i.e. talking heads, interviews, OK, but not run and gun or action footage since the pulldown issues are magnified).

If you want to go with a true 24 frame project then 24pn is definitely the right decision since you would be removing the pulldown from regular 24p before adding it to the project.
 
What if I did a project that only used 24p footage, but to be exported to the web and to make DVD's? Could I then use 720p/24pn?
 
Pn means : records 24 frames (if you want to go to 24 frames film for example)
P means : records 29,97 but with same filmic look (just different pulldown)

If you film in PN because of space reasons it doesn't matter for dvd because dvd will make it automatically 29,97 fit to play on tv.
 
dolph2000 said:
Pn means : records 24 frames (if you want to go to 24 frames film for example)
P means : records 29,97 but with same filmic look (just different pulldown)

If you film in PN because of space reasons it doesn't matter for dvd because dvd will make it automatically 29,97 fit to play on tv.
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Ah thanks. So if I film in 24pn, and in DVDSP it makes it 29.97, will it look the same as shooting in reg 24p mode when outputted to DVD and web?
 
Yes, but only for dvd and web indeed otherwise you need an expensive deck to write to to get the pulldown to broadcast.
BTW for web you can leave it 24 frames it doesn't matter.
 
dolph2000 said:
Yes, but only for dvd and web indeed otherwise you need an expensive deck to write to to get the pulldown to broadcast.
BTW for web you can leave it 24 frames it doesn't matter.
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Ah, thanks a lot. I don't plan on broadcasting anything, but if in the future I needed to at least it's still possible. (i'm assuming you could rent the said deck for the pulldown)
Thanks for the info.
 
RE1000 said:
What if I did a project that only used 24p footage, but to be exported to the web and to make DVD's? Could I then use 720p/24pn?
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Well you can keep all the web stuff native 24fps. No need to pulldown for web.

You can also make a true 24fps progressive DVD but I hear some players have trouble playing back DVDs encoded this way. Its ironic that the bulk of all DVDs are authored from a 24fps source anyway :)
 
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