24P advanced batch capture preset

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enrico

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Hello,

Using Final Cut Pro, if I've shot in 24p advanced, used DV-NTSC 24p advanced pulldown in the Easy Set Up, what should I specify in the Batch Capture Preset when I'm importing footage? DV NTSC 48 KHZ Advanced (2:3:3:2) Pulldown Removal as well, or should it be just DV NTSC 48 Khz?

Your help on this would be greatly appreciated,


enrico
 
Easy set up will take care of everything for you. Once you use easy setup and have selected DV-NTSC 24p advanced pulldown removal, FCP does the rest with all of the settings (including capture settings)

To answer your question though, yes with 24P adv., you should capture with the DV-NTSC 24p advanced pulldown removal setting.

Remember that you can't capture across breaks in recording or else this will break the pulldown cadence and cause an error in FCP. You have to capture each recorded section separately and one at a time. So you would start capturing just after recording started and then stop capturing just before the recording stopped. You will have to do this for each time the Camera stopped/started recording.

Also, check out this page:

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/24p_in_FCP_nattress.html
 
Thanks very much,

This is radically different than my previous editing routines. Like if I have 3 takes of one scene, now I have to either seperate each take or do some pre editing, and decide on the best take beforehand. Does it also mean I shouldn't add handles in the capture mode?...and I can ignore whatever it says in the batch capture preset window, even if it's not on the advanced pulldown removal setting?

enrico
 
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i capture across breaks all the time. as long as you didn't break the timecode when shooting, you're cool. say if you played back to review and left blank space between shots, that will screw you up. otherwise it works.
 
thanks,

... there seem to be 2 conflicting messages here though - does a break in the timecode only refer to stopping recording and having reviewed the recorded scene, or does it happen with just stopping and starting recording?
The first answer doesn't seem to affect wether you use handles or not in capture mode, and the other response seems to prohibit the addition of handles.
Finally, with either answer, I'm assuming that I don't change the batch capture window even if the advanced pulldown removal setting is not indicated. True?

I appreciate your feedback,

enrico
 
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no. If you just stop and start during recording it's fine usually for capture down the road. And even if you break the timecode and the cadence breaks it just means you have to start up the capture again. You still have all the footage you already captured. No problem.
 
Thanks again,

So then, if I'm shooting various scenes (24p adv), stopping and starting, and i don't break the timecode by reviewing footage on camera and/or leaving a space, I could capture all that together at one time, using the easy set up, NTSC 24p advanced pulldown removal setting, with handles and disregard whatever setting is in the Batch Capture window (even if it doesn't refer to the advance pulldown removal there)?

almost totally clear,

enrico
 
From my own experiences with FCP 5 and from what I have read related to this topic..... With 24P adv. the pulldown can't continue across cuts because it restarts at each cut. You can't digitize across cuts. If by chance the pulldown happens to begin in the same place that it left off in the previous cut, then there will be no FCP error, otherwise the cadence break error will pop up. This is true with time code breaks as well as normal start/stop of recording.

enrico, give it a try and let us know.
 
Hi again,

If i capture 24p adv footage in easy set up (advanced pulldown removal setting) over the stop/start breaks i found the cadence break error window doesn't pop up. But in one of my scenes there seems to be some strobing happening... a scene of birds flying in and out of the still frame...not sure if this was due to the capture set up.

I just want to capture right from the start without having to redo.

Thanks for the input, and the article,

enrico
 
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