24p Advance - Frustrating!

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SinJinQLB

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Ok so I know that a lot of questions have been asked and answered about 24p advanced but I think I have a unique one. Either, way, I can't find an answer and am hoping someone on this board can help.

I shot footage in 24p Advanced on a Panasonic DVX100a. Captured it with the 24p preset in Adobe Premiere CS4 (version 4.0).

Now when I manually remove 24p pulldown from the interpret footage box, I get horrible interlacing. From what I've read, removing the pulldown is suppose to give you the pure 24 progressive frames. But I am getting the opposite. I get interlacing, and I have to then go back and in the Field Options select De-interlace, which reduces the resolution.

This seems backwards from everything I've read elserwhere! Everyone says you'll have every 5th frame interlaced with 24p Advanced until you remove pulldown, in which you will then have beautiful 24 progressive frames. NOT the case for me. I remove pulldown and get interlacing throughout all of the footage. Only when I DON'T remove the pulldown do I have non-interlaced footage.

Does this make sense to anyone? Did I do something wrong? Should I have captured to the footage with something other than the 24p DV preset? Do I have the only backwards-working version of Premiere out there? So frustrating, but I want to understand... Thanks to whoever can help.

Josh
 
Really? I suppose I can try the upgrade. But from what I've read, 4.1 just removes pulldown automatically on 24pa clips, as opposed to having to manually remove pulldown in version 4.0. So I don't see how that would alter my interlacing problem...
 
heh..thats why i still work with premiere 3, i did not like the new stuff ..... maybe next version
 
Ok So I went back and played it frame by frame. And if I don't remove 24p pulldown I am definitely getting progressive frames. But when I remove pulldown, I see 3 progressive frames and 1 interlaced frame, 3 progressive, 1 interlaced, and so on throughout all the foootage. It's almost as if when I captured the foootage and imported it into the project Premiere was automatically removing the interlaced frames for me, but when I go to manually remove the 24p pulldown it puts the interlaced frames back in. Does this make any sense to anyone?
 
I wish I could learn about all the 24p pulldown and interlaced frames etc. That's one thing I am not familiar with as I don't really edit too much. Anybody have any sites or info you can shoot back at me about this stuff. I have to try to learn it one way or another. Thanks in advance!
 
You must be removing a standard 2:3 pattern versus the 2:3:3:2 pattern that is the 24PA cadence. The auto remove would be better because it is removing the correct frames.

24P
aa bb bc cd dd Each of these pairs is a frame.

This sequence is much harder to remove the extra frames as the frame you want is part of two different frmas and the odd even cadence is off. This means that if you are trying to remove 24PA using the above mode it will be all wrong.


24PA
aa bb bc cc dd Each of these pairs are a frame

Here is the easy to remove 24PA. Upgrade to 4.1 and take the easy way.

Best,

Jan
 
i thought with premier u dont have to mess with all that drama...just drag and drop. i use PPCS3...cs4 doesnt do this?
 
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