2.35:1 editing solution

[PaPa]

I know most of you know your own way of cropping your footage to get the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, but if some of you don't here is a easy way for you to achieve the easiest editing control over your 4x3 footage.


Right click and Save As for proper aspect ratio in a 4x3 editor

www.tassweb.com/papa/235areamap.jpg

Here is a sample of what it looks like. ( may not be correct aspect from the upload provider )

- Open in video 2 or empty video line/layer. Chroma Key it, White.

- Next step, Set that layers oppacity to 50%


You can now easily frame your 4x3 footage into a 2.35:1 area aspect ratio. This allows you to see what is above and bellow the frame as well as giving you freedom to move your picture up and down to correctly frame your footage.

When you have completed editing your piece, export it as is and re enter it into your editor, its there you will add the black bars to the section of the footage the require it, in premier pro its 22 on top and 22 on bottom.



Now, for those who are wondering what the best way to shoot your footage setting those black bars in place to correctly frame for 2.35:1 editing.

HEre is a picture of my setup.

What I've done is connected my camera to my editor and stayed on a frame with the 235areamap jpg at 50% opacity. This let me put rubber bands around the frame of my lcd screen, allowed me to level them off, and gently write a small pen mark on the plastic edges of the lcd allowing me quicker setup times in the future.

kew!


Again, i know many of you know how to do it well, i just find this might help some people who dont exactly know the best way of going around it.

 

[Anthem78]

Nice advice. I created a matte in photoshop with the aspect ratio (two black bars over a 2.35:1 transparent area), imported the file into FCP and set it on the topmost layer.

I still need to create the framing on the viewfinder, and I like your simple solution.

One question - I haven't found the best way to export my footage cropped to 2.35:1 (with no black bars) the proper way. Any suggestions?

 

[PaPa]

sure man, create your footage in your 4x3 with your mask ontop, get rid of it after everything is properly framed.

Then open a new project with 720 x 270 resolution. This should proved the proper 2.35:1 framing and will get rid of the black bars.

 

[Loki]

720x306 = 2.35:1 without taking into account the non square nature of the DV pixels.

this is the 2.35:1 I use when masking my work.

 

[cheezweezl]

in FCP there is a "widescreen filter" that does 2.35:1. i guess if your NLE doesn't have this feature, the above method is a cool way to do it.

....and for framing purposes, http://www.aspectcorrect.com/ has overlays in all aspect ratios for the dvx. i have the multi-aspect one on page 2. it protects your screen as well.

 

[ryan brown]

and for framing purposes, http://www.aspectcorrect.com/ has overlays in all aspect ratios for the dvx. i have the multi-aspect one on page 2. it protects your screen as well.

Nice.

 

[Anthem78]

sure man, create your footage in your 4x3 with your mask ontop, get rid of it after everything is properly framed.

Then open a new project with 720 x 270 resolution. This should proved the proper 2.35:1 framing and will get rid of the black bars.

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't think of that. It worked great.

 

[PaPa]

720x306 = 2.35:1 without taking into account the non square nature of the DV pixels.

this is the 2.35:1 I use when masking my work.

thats strange man. Because i imported a 2.35:1 still from LOTR a long time ago to see what the Clip number would be in PP 1.5. It worked out to be 22 ontop and bottom.

I kept opening new projects trying different resolutions and finally at 720 x 270, the black bars disappeared!

 

[t-h-e-w-h-o]

Here is my own personal collection of AR framing charts. Figured i would add to this

For all of you using adobe premier (ANY VERSION) here is a download for a 2.35:1 AR mask. http://www.getsdrunk.com/files/video/ARCHARTS/2351.prtl

ENJOY!

Also, below are images of my framing charts to create your own.

Framing for a 4:3 project:

Framing for a 16:9 project:

 

[PaPa]

your link dont work buddy!

 

[t-h-e-w-h-o]

your link dont work buddy!

my link? yes it does....

 

[PaPa]

k i tried the link you gave me again and imported it into my editor.

I measured it exactly out and its slightly off. It is perfect 2.35:1 after the safe margins but the full overscan video is at proper 2.35:1 with clip 22, where as this one is at clip 23 which is just slightly smaller in frame then correct 2.35:1

 

[t-h-e-w-h-o]

k i tried the link you gave me again and imported it into my editor.

I measured it exactly out and its slightly off. It is perfect 2.35:1 after the safe margins but the full overscan video is at proper 2.35:1 with clip 22, where as this one is at clip 23 which is just slightly smaller in frame then correct 2.35:1

really? Thats odd, it shows as being clip 22 for me... Think you could clip it 22, save it and re-export the title so i can update the link?

 

[PaPa]

not sure how to give a title the clip and export it as a title.

 

[Slimothy]

I'll have to try this. Thanks for the tip.

 

[t-h-e-w-h-o]

not sure how to give a title the clip and export it as a title.

how far off is my template from true 2.35:1?

 

[Anthem78]

When I copy my footage from my original timeline (imported as 24a in squeeze mode) and paste it into a 720 x 270 or 720 x 306 timeline, certain parts appear stretched. Am I messing something up in the transfer?