16gb P2

The offload over night while you sleep breaks down when you shoot for a client and they have to go off to an edit or to another location and need to leave with the shot files. Keeping up with the offloading process is they key. I doubt that when 16 or 32 G cards are available, any one will let them go off with a client to the edit......
 
Perhaps we should also consider the possibility that there will never be cards larger than 16gb. P2 is after all, a proprietary Panasonic-only format, so if they decide to go with some other, incompatible solid-state media in future lines of cameras, it's only a matter of time before P2 dies out and one can't buy cards anymore. It's not like DV tapes that are supported by several manufacturers of both the media, and cameras that use them. Without Panasonic, P2 is dead.

Don't get me wrong-- I love P2. I wish Panasonic would allow other companies to use P2 in their cameras-- even if they're the only one who manufactures the cards, if more cameras used it, it would be in more demand, and prices would drop -- plus we wouldn't have to worry as much about Panasonic killing the format down the line if they have a larger customer base for it.

I have three 4gb cards, and I would most certainly like some larger cards -- but not to replace the current cards, but to compliment them. For long format recording, a 16 or 32gb card would be great. But for dramaic filming, you almost never have single takes that are 4 min. long anyway, so the offloading process is no big deal. In many ways, it is better, because at the end of the day you are ready to start editing, rather than having to wait around idle for a huge card to transfer.

I really hope P2 stays around. But I intend to buy as many cards as I can afford as the prices drop, because somehow I have a feeling that P2 will disappear long before my HVX stops being useful.
 
TwistedLincoln said:
But for dramaic filming, you almost never have single takes that are 4 min. long anyway....
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Unless you're doing a remake of The Russian Arc and trying for a single, long take of more than an hour... :-)
 
TwistedLincoln said:
Perhaps we should also consider the possibility that there will never be cards larger than 16gb. P2 is after all, a proprietary Panasonic-only format, so if they decide to go with some other, incompatible solid-state media in future lines of cameras, it's only a matter of time before P2 dies out and one can't buy cards anymore. It's not like DV tapes that are supported by several manufacturers of both the media, and cameras that use them. Without Panasonic, P2 is dead.

Don't get me wrong-- I love P2. I wish Panasonic would allow other companies to use P2 in their cameras-- even if they're the only one who manufactures the cards, if more cameras used it, it would be in more demand, and prices would drop -- plus we wouldn't have to worry as much about Panasonic killing the format down the line if they have a larger customer base for it.

I have three 4gb cards, and I would most certainly like some larger cards -- but not to replace the current cards, but to compliment them. For long format recording, a 16 or 32gb card would be great. But for dramaic filming, you almost never have single takes that are 4 min. long anyway, so the offloading process is no big deal. In many ways, it is better, because at the end of the day you are ready to start editing, rather than having to wait around idle for a huge card to transfer.

I really hope P2 stays around. But I intend to buy as many cards as I can afford as the prices drop, because somehow I have a feeling that P2 will disappear long before my HVX stops being useful.
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Larger P2 cards are certainly key to keep things improving.
Too many people invested on this technology and are waiting for upgrades in products and prices to become more competitive.
P2 is a great idea that has been embraced by consumers, but it is going trough a slow (OK, steady but slooow) development.

Offloading process IS a big deal for many people.
For 6 months now I've been working and dealing with many crews using P2 (all over the country, mostly in NorCal) and although the overall feeling is extraordinary I don't know ONE person that have not complained of its size limitations and offload workflow in the set or location.

Larger cards will improve this situation substantially.
 
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P2 offloading -- such a pain! ;) Oh wait -- remember when these things called "video tapes" limited us to realtime capture? And to play a video tape that used a pro HD (compressed) format, you had to have this thing called a VTR (sometimes referred to as VCR) that cost in the tens of thousands of dollars? Compared to that, this tapeless workflow ain't so bad, even if you gotta dump a few grand on 8GB P2 cards and a P2 Store.
 
With the great selling HVX200, a P2 version of the SDX, and a soon to be coming P2 version of the HDX900; hopefully Pansonic will support P2s for a long time to come. Even if they don't however, I'm happy with 4 gigers. Easy to offload, easy to back up. I just want the prices to drop but I'm not in a huge hurry for a 16 gig (except so the 4 giger price comes down).
 
I'm really comfortable with the 8 gig cards, I can offload them in 8-9 minutes, and at 24pn you can shoot around 20 minutes each. With 4's I feel like I would be flipping them in and out of the camera so often it would be distracting.

I would like larger capacity cards even better. Bigger P2's mean more flexibility (except for the cost!). You can always offload a big card before it fills up, right?

George
 
lots of 4GB cards is fine for most of you guys, spare a thought for us poor underwater shooters... who wants to come up, get dry, get the housing dry, and swap it all around every 4 or 8 minutes?
 
Wow,

I'd never really thought about underwater cinematography. I guess the HVX , or rather P2 is dead in the water (no pun intended) for you.
 
Nathan Drillot said:
Wow,

I'd never really thought about underwater cinematography. I guess the HVX , or rather P2 is dead in the water (no pun intended) for you.
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Why? With two 8gb cards, and 720/24pN, you're getting 40 minutes of runtime. That's twice as long as James Cameron's film cameras as used in Titanic (and he went to 2-perf film to get those 20-minute runtimes; normal 4-perf film would have only given 10 minutes!)

40 minutes is longer than many tape-based cameras can do. And as soon as the 16gb cards come out you'll have more continuous running time than any tape-based camera.
 
Nathan Drillot said:
Wow,

I'd never really thought about underwater cinematography. I guess the HVX , or rather P2 is dead in the water (no pun intended) for you.
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Not at all. I am loving P2, I can get 33 minutes using 720PN/25, and it isn't often i fill these on a single dive, its just on rare occasions like snorkelling with whales for 5 hours at a time that you dont really want to get out and have to download.
 
That's true. We can only do maximum of 33 minutes with the HDX900.


Barry_Green said:
Why? With two 8gb cards, and 720/24pN, you're getting 40 minutes of runtime. That's twice as long as James Cameron's film cameras as used in Titanic (and he went to 2-perf film to get those 20-minute runtimes; normal 4-perf film would have only given 10 minutes!)

40 minutes is longer than many tape-based cameras can do. And as soon as the 16gb cards come out you'll have more continuous running time than any tape-based camera.
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