120 hrz monitor - essential for fluid watching and working with 23.976fps ?

roei z

roei z

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hi-
I plan to upgrade to a better monitor for full screen AVID workflow and even just watching
MTS footage on VLC etc.

i noticed that i have extra judder when using my current 60hrz monitor.
if i invest on 120 hrz monitor will i have better viewing results?
less judder on 23.976 clips and editing?


thanks :)
 
i posted it on the postwork avid forum and someone replayed me:

No. It will just make it look like 60fps video. Make your film look like it was shot with a home movie camera.

i'm getting confused here.. :(


* ok i found THIS:

24p true cinema displays the source material in 24 frames per second, which is how it is displayed in movie theaters. 120hz tv's fix the "telecine judder" caused by 60hz tv's which display 24p materiel using a 3:2 pulldown instead of a 5:5 done by a 120hz set. So, you aren't really missing out on a lot, but cinemotion or true cinema is handy if you like the movie theatre look on different sources.
It is confusing. There's a difference between 24p capability on a 60hz set and 24p capability on 120hz set. Without getting into it, 24p @ 60hz leaves a bit of judder (3:2 pulldown judder) while 24p @ 120hz is a bit smoother (via 5:5 pulldown) which resembles the movie experience.

and even THIS:
http://gizmodo.com/231872/120hz-hdtv...ooth-as-butter


so that's even true to 72 hrz monitor.. hmm


can anyone confirm this before i'll go and waste my money ? :)
 
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You or someone could try if his or her monitor can do 120Hz at a lower resolution and try it out by simply watching something normally jidderish? My laptop monitor can´t, I´ll be on my workstation tonight though, I will try then.
 
i need checking with a player such as VLC or whatever you usually use,
and also if you are on AVID, try the full frame playback..

thanks :)
 
It will make it look like 60fps video if the MotionFlow feature found on many 120hz HDTVs is on. But just turn that off and it should give better 24p playback than 60hz.
 
Perhaps you should try setting your current monitor's refresh rate to a multiple of 24 before you spend any money. :) I've found that most LCDs can support 72Hz if you have an nVIdia card and can create a custom refresh rate.


If you set it up properly, prepare to be blown away with how smooth it looks!
 
Matthew P said:
Perhaps you should try setting your current monitor's refresh rate to a multiple of 24 before you spend any money. :) I've found that most LCDs can support 72Hz if you have an nVIdia card and can create a custom refresh rate.


If you set it up properly, prepare to be blown away with how smooth it looks!
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How would you do that?

I tried the normal way to change resolution but still only have 60Hz as an option.

And what should we learn about this? Which refresh rate should our preview monitor have to provide good info about what the final will look like? Shouldn´t it be 50Hz or 100Hz to mimic TVs?

By the way I hate this feature in newer LCDs that doubles frames to make it look natural (like a soap opera).
 
If 24P format is your target, HDTV should be your target device, right? Then how about 1080p HDTV that supports 24p cinematic mode? Dual video output from your machine. You edit from your computer monitor and do playback on the HDTV on the fly.
 
stonebat said:
If 24P format is your target, HDTV should be your target device, right? Then how about 1080p HDTV that supports 24p cinematic mode? Dual video output from your machine. You edit from your computer monitor and do playback on the HDTV on the fly.
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but i work on dual monitors as it is. i thought one of them should be 24p viewing dedicated.. i can't afford an additional HDTV :)
 
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