1080p possible? also slow mo?

spidey

spidey

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is 1080p possible and slomo at this size as well ...i done 720p till now and im shooting test and would like to know if these things are possible.
 
The HVX only shoots 1080i not 1080p and you can only overcrank at 720p if I'm not mistaken.
 
you can shoot 1080p at 24 frames/sec - its recorded in a 1080i stream with pulldown. But you cannot overcrank or undercrank in 1080
 
The HVX shoots 1080p at 24fps and 30fps. It gets recorded in an interlaced stream, but the footage itself is progressive.

You can simulate 60fps slow motion by shooting your slow-mo/overcrank segment at 1080/60i and then play it back in your 24fps sequence at 40% speed (just like we used to do with the DVX). Or you could shoot 720/60p and just up-rez it a bit in a 1080 sequence.
 
Of course. Using 720 in a 1080 project might mean giving up about 20% of your res. Don't know about the de-interlacing method as I haven't tried it; you'd retain horizontal resolution but give up some vertical.
 
Barry_Green said:
The HVX shoots 1080p at 24fps and 30fps. It gets recorded in an interlaced stream, but the footage itself is progressive.
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How does it do this? Does this just mean the two fields are not staggered like a traditional inerlaced image?
 
It's not that big of a difference to just upres the 720p over/undercranked footage into a 1080p sequence.

Is that little bit of resolution loss a deal breaker?
 
ChrisForbes said:
How does it do this? Does this just mean the two fields are not staggered like a traditional inerlaced image?
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The frame is imaged all at once. It then gets sliced into fields for recording, but the "fields" were imaged at the same moment in time (unlike how normal interlaced capture is done, where each field is imaged in its own moment in time).

But when you get it in your NLE, it'll reassemble the sliced frames back together. So the interlaced "transport stream" is one of convenience, but in the end it doesn't make any difference to the footage.
 
Barry_Green said:
you could shoot 720/60p and just up-rez it a bit in a 1080 sequence.
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I think that's a decent idea. I plan on doing just that with some of the effects shots, in my next project.
 
What is your final format?
Film print?
DVD?
Web?
HD DVD?

Why do you need all this resolution and overcrank?
 
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spidey said:
im going to film print and Blu ray and DVD
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Well thats all over the place and the worst possible combinations of formats.

Pick one as your native and shoot for that, ideal workflows for each of those conflict somewhat with the others.

If film will be your native then SHOOT FILM NOT VIDEO, even if you shoot 1080p HD you will always be shooting at half of typical 4k film resolution, and if you shoot 24p film or video then it will look strobey in all your video formats.

If you choose Blu Ray as your preferred final destination then you have to accept that hardly anyone has Blu Ray and most of the time people will view it on downresed PS3s etc for at least the next year or two until the format either takes off andis everywhere or dies (cough*betamax*cough).

If you choose to go to DVD then all the discussion about HD formats is irrelevant because you want to be working in SD at 30fps.

You do know that a film print costs about a thrird to half the cost of an HVX200 right? If you can afford film prints then you should be shooting on FILM editing digitally then printing back to FILM.

Decide whether you are making films or videos and then figure out your prefered final output. work backwards from that. From what I see, youre just trying to find something that does everything, and that doesn't exist.
 
no i know what im doing plus the film print will cost triple than my production is If shoot on film. we've done the matt my EP's are sticking with them, besides formats wasn't my question.
 
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