I'm a low budget Indie Filmmaker with the expectation to submit shorts and features to film festivals after conversion to 35mm film. I want the highest resolution. I've heard plenty on software solutions that handle 720 24P perfectly, but not too much about 1080 24P. Why? Any and all suggestions welcomed. Thanks
1080 24P Editing Solutions?
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Mr. Blonde
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Avid xpress pro hd is awesome and is considered the industry standard, so if you're looking to learn an NLE, i'd say avid is the way to go.
Just remember, in Avid Xpress Pro HD, you won't be able to monitor true 1080/24p unless you have a HD deck. You can monitor if you are in Avid Adrenaline.
Just in case you wanted to, although with film out you might be planning on finishing on a high end suite anyway. :beer:
Cheers.
Just in case you wanted to, although with film out you might be planning on finishing on a high end suite anyway. :beer:
Cheers.
Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Avid dude, I used to use Premeire Pro, used Final Cut in college, but as of recent i've switched to Avid and wouldn't switch back for nothin. It's a great program and is the most well respected amongst NLE's in the industry.
Green Hornet
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MoonDog said:
I just saw a few films made with Final Cut.
They did require some compositing, and multiple cuts etc.
The result seemed very soft to me.
I am under the impression that the Final cut solution is good, but suffers from multi generation degredation more than others such as Avid or Canopus.
I have not seen much on Premiere to know how it suffers, if at all, in this same regard.
Matt Gottshalk
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Green Hornet said:
Hmmm...I've been on Avid since 1991, and also have FCPro. If there's any additional "softnesss" it's not FCPro's fault.
MoonDog
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Green Hornet said:
This surprises me - I've cut on Final Cut every day for the past 4 years, primarily for broadcast commercial clients, and have never had any issues with image degradation, even with heavy color correction. Now, I haven't done any HD (most of my clients are DVCPro or DigiBeta raw), but knowing that FCP has the DVCProHD codec built in - it already seems ready to capture HD from the Varicam (or HVX-200) with no quality loss whatsoever.
If you don't mind me asking, I'd be curious what films you've seen where softness was an issue?
The major studio features that have been edited with FCP include Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (which has an admittedly soft look, but this was on purpose), Cold Mountain and Jarhead, Rules of Attraction, Intolerable Cruelty, November, etc. Granted, some of these used FCP to edit with and then used the resulting EDL for cutting the negative on film, but I believe that Sky Captain and November both had digital masters for their negatives spit right out of Final Cut.
And if you have a good G5, for a mere $1300 you can get the Final Cut Studio bundle, which includes Final Cut for editing, Soundtrack Pro for audio editing and sweetening, Motion for graphics and titles, and DVD Studio Pro for dvd mastering. (http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/).
I swear I don't own stock in Apple, but I've edited on Media 100 and Avid (and still do occasionally, depending on who hires me), but I really prefer FCP over the others - both for ease of use and price point. (To be fair, I admit I haven't used Avid Xpress Pro HD, but I have done a lot of work on Mac based Media Composers. From what I understand, they share nearly identical interfaces and toolsets...)
I learned NLE on Avid... but once I went FCP, that became my application of choice (when the client gives me a choice).
Green Hornet
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MoonDog said:
The one I was refering to was called Mediated. It was at a film festival shown with other like films, and they were all projected.
I did the sound on portions of that one and talked to the director who said it was edited on Final cut, and they had to send the files back and forth to the compositor, whos stuff looked good most likely due to it being first generation (superimposed images on tv screens).
The movies you mentioned, most likely were using Final Cut to make an EDL, not to edit the entire footage, and through more than one generation.
I think for simple cut edits it looks fine, but multiple renders, it seems to fall apart from what I have seen.
Prove me wrong, as I am looking for the best solution to edit on as well.
I am looking for a $3k- $4k solution including hardware and software.
Sounds Like the Way to Go
Sounds Like the Way to Go
Excellent. Thank You and this is perfect for my budget. I'll begin to check out best pricing. Do you know of any training classes available to get up to speed quickly? I must admit I'm coming into this from the Director/Writer approach. With the HVX looking to expand skill set to producing and editing.
Sounds Like the Way to Go
Mr. Blonde said:
Excellent. Thank You and this is perfect for my budget. I'll begin to check out best pricing. Do you know of any training classes available to get up to speed quickly? I must admit I'm coming into this from the Director/Writer approach. With the HVX looking to expand skill set to producing and editing.