Barry_Green
Moderator
Drew, I'm trying to follow you, but you're moving the goalposts. In one post you say "everyone is equally capable, and those that say they aren't are just being defeatists." And then in this post you're stating that some filmmakers may very well have high spatial intelligence -- implying (or stating) that others don't.
So which is it? Either there are folks that are more suited to the task, or there aren't.
I am firmly of the mindset that there are things you can fix with effort, practice, and training, and there's some things that you really do have to be born with. And yes, there are some things that people are born with, that other people aren't. I've known three people who could play any instrument, by ear. They could listen to a piano concerto, or a Jimi Hendrix riff, and then sit down to the piano or pick up a guitar and (largely) recreate it. And, furthermore, not one of the three could read a single note of sheet music. And their backgrounds and habits were wildly different -- one was a self-made businessman who subsequently ruined himself with drugs, one was the laziest do-nothing no-ambition entitlement-mindset teenager I've ever met, and one was a churchgoing mom who actually made excellent films, but ultimately didn't have the ambition, she wanted to just be a mom and play in a church band.
There is not a doubt in my mind, whatsoever, that those folks all possessed an innate gift that I, and most of us, simply do not have. Their brains are wired differently than mine (and, I'd dare say, differently than most of us). There absolutely *is* such a thing as being genetically, inherently "gifted". I happen to believe that we are all individually gifted with talents and abilities and interests that make us unique, and if we would but pursue those relentlessly, we would bring the most enjoyment and value to ourselves and to others. But that each person has different gifts (and different deficits) in different areas.
Can you overcome them? To a little degree. I had to play trumpet from 4th grade through 9th grade. Got pretty decent at it, was First Chair in my 9th grade band. Hated every second of it, and finally declared at the end of 9th grade that I simply wasn't going to do it anymore. I was no Herb Alpert, and was never going to be, and didn't want to be -- I kept at it only through pressure from my parents.
Hard work will get you somewhere. Hard work without talent will get you somewhere. Talent without hard work will get you nowhere. Hard work + talent is the formula for greatness. And, again, yes, there are those that are more talented than others, and while you can argue nature or nurture (and I think it's definitely a good dose of both) the fact of the matter is: you are who you are RIGHT NOW. And what heights you can achieve are dictated by what skills you have (both learned, and genetic) and by how hard you are willing to work.
So which is it? Either there are folks that are more suited to the task, or there aren't.
I am firmly of the mindset that there are things you can fix with effort, practice, and training, and there's some things that you really do have to be born with. And yes, there are some things that people are born with, that other people aren't. I've known three people who could play any instrument, by ear. They could listen to a piano concerto, or a Jimi Hendrix riff, and then sit down to the piano or pick up a guitar and (largely) recreate it. And, furthermore, not one of the three could read a single note of sheet music. And their backgrounds and habits were wildly different -- one was a self-made businessman who subsequently ruined himself with drugs, one was the laziest do-nothing no-ambition entitlement-mindset teenager I've ever met, and one was a churchgoing mom who actually made excellent films, but ultimately didn't have the ambition, she wanted to just be a mom and play in a church band.
There is not a doubt in my mind, whatsoever, that those folks all possessed an innate gift that I, and most of us, simply do not have. Their brains are wired differently than mine (and, I'd dare say, differently than most of us). There absolutely *is* such a thing as being genetically, inherently "gifted". I happen to believe that we are all individually gifted with talents and abilities and interests that make us unique, and if we would but pursue those relentlessly, we would bring the most enjoyment and value to ourselves and to others. But that each person has different gifts (and different deficits) in different areas.
Can you overcome them? To a little degree. I had to play trumpet from 4th grade through 9th grade. Got pretty decent at it, was First Chair in my 9th grade band. Hated every second of it, and finally declared at the end of 9th grade that I simply wasn't going to do it anymore. I was no Herb Alpert, and was never going to be, and didn't want to be -- I kept at it only through pressure from my parents.
Hard work will get you somewhere. Hard work without talent will get you somewhere. Talent without hard work will get you nowhere. Hard work + talent is the formula for greatness. And, again, yes, there are those that are more talented than others, and while you can argue nature or nurture (and I think it's definitely a good dose of both) the fact of the matter is: you are who you are RIGHT NOW. And what heights you can achieve are dictated by what skills you have (both learned, and genetic) and by how hard you are willing to work.