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IMO there is a lot to like about the way Komodo is shaping up.
It records to commercial Cfast2 media internally. It runs on a pair of hot swappable Canon BP975 batteries for extended periods of time.
Sensor size will most likely be S35+ same as Gemini but 6k, slightly larger than S35 at 5k, about 20.4mm wide at 4k. (speculation based on an assumed 5 micron pixel size)
The new sensor has phase detect auto focus behind an electronic Canon RF mount. It can interface to external recorder/monitors via SDI and AUX port similar to DSMC.
It is a roughly 4 inch cube weighing about 2lbs, obviously intended for gymbals and drones.
The primary user interface will be a smartphone, Android first, but IOS coming shortly after. There will be a phone cradle that mounts to the pogo pin interface on top of the camera where DSMC touch screens usually mount with a USB-C interface to the phone. That alone is potentially a significant system cost saving for many of us by offloading a lot of processing chores to the phone for control gui, monitoring, video encoding, live streaming, and proxy recording.
The current state of the art phones are running 21:9 4K widescreen HDR 10 bit OLED displays, iPhone 11 pro is as bright as 800 nits in normal mode and 1200 in HDR mode. Seems like a more than adequate solution for a bargain price compared to typical outboard monitors.
Multiple different lens adapters are already available for the RF mount, so lens compatibility won't be much of an issue.
Price is expected to fall somewhere between $5k and $6k for the body.
I find Komodo particularly appealing because I already have everything needed to fully kit it out except a couple of lens adapters and some Cfast cards. Batteries, chargers, and Beachtek preamp from a Canon GL2 kit, the rest from the Bolex kit. So it is priced within reasonable reach compared to any previous Red model. If the IQ is on par with Red's current offerings, I would consider it a bargain.
 
Razz16mm said:
IMO there is a lot to like about the way Komodo is shaping up.
It records to commercial Cfast2 media internally. It runs on a pair of hot swappable Canon BP975 batteries for extended periods of time.
Sensor size will most likely be S35+ same as Gemini but 6k, slightly larger than S35 at 5k, about 20.4mm wide at 4k. (speculation based on an assumed 5 micron pixel size)
The new sensor has phase detect auto focus behind an electronic Canon RF mount. It can interface to external recorder/monitors via SDI and AUX port similar to DSMC.
It is a roughly 4 inch cube weighing about 2lbs, obviously intended for gymbals and drones.
The primary user interface will be a smartphone, Android first, but IOS coming shortly after. There will be a phone cradle that mounts to the pogo pin interface on top of the camera where DSMC touch screens usually mount with a USB-C interface to the phone. That alone is potentially a significant system cost saving for many of us by offloading a lot of processing chores to the phone for control gui, monitoring, video encoding, live streaming, and proxy recording.
The current state of the art phones are running 21:9 4K widescreen HDR 10 bit OLED displays, iPhone 11 pro is as bright as 800 nits in normal mode and 1200 in HDR mode. Seems like a more than adequate solution for a bargain price compared to typical outboard monitors.
Multiple different lens adapters are already available for the RF mount, so lens compatibility won't be much of an issue.
Price is expected to fall somewhere between $5k and $6k for the body.
I find Komodo particularly appealing because I already have everything needed to fully kit it out except a couple of lens adapters and some Cfast cards. Batteries, chargers, and Beachtek preamp from a Canon GL2 kit, the rest from the Bolex kit. So it is priced within reasonable reach compared to any previous Red model. If the IQ is on par with Red's current offerings, I would consider it a bargain.
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Not sure how you can make any judgement call on a series of teases from Jared. We've been here so many times before with Red products - who can forget the all-in-one Scarlet and that ill-fated promo shoot they did with one of the biggest flunkies on RedUser? I like shooting on Red but some of their marketing practices are shameless.
 
I would hope that they also build in the ability to have something like a Portkeys monitor control the camera. Phones are fine for some things, but not everything or every time. Since the Portkeys monitor has the ability to control things like the Z Cam E2 series, it would be a good thing to build in that control fr a new RED camera. less R&D costs to make a new monitor and the size of the camera body certainly is similar.
 
Greg_E said:
I would hope that they also build in the ability to have something like a Portkeys monitor control the camera. Phones are fine for some things, but not everything or every time. Since the Portkeys monitor has the ability to control things like the Z Cam E2 series, it would be a good thing to build in that control fr a new RED camera. less R&D costs to make a new monitor and the size of the camera body certainly is similar.
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Agreed. I was on the fence about Komodo until it seemed like a phone was going to be a decent part of the experience and Jarred gave more info about the frame rates (implying it doesn’t overcrank at full res). Went with a Scarlet W instead (coming from C200).

Even if the phone bit turns out to not be that big a deal, I’m just sure RED is not going to make Komodo do everything better than their mid-range/high-end options.
 
J.Brown said:
Ever since the first time I encountered Red in 2008 I never understood the hoopla about it. Just the other week I handled some Red material utterly inferior to even a C200. I guess I never got the hype, cult or image quality.
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...even a C200?

I thought the C200 was supposed to be a good camera?
 
Liam Hall said:
Not sure how you can make any judgement call on a series of teases from Jared. We've been here so many times before with Red products - who can forget the all-in-one Scarlet and that ill-fated promo shoot they did with one of the biggest flunkies on RedUser? I like shooting on Red but some of their marketing practices are shameless.
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I can wait until it’s out to decide.

Soderbergh shot his next feature on Komodo prototypes. Here is his take on it:

What’s interesting is the film that I made since The Laundromat with Meryl that we just wrapped, I was using the new Red Komodo, which is the best of both. It’s extremely small, but it’s got a full-sized sensor. You can strip it down to absolutely nothing and it’s truly quite small and light. The lens is bigger and heavier than the body. Or you can very easily—if you need a little bit of mass because of the shot you’re doing, whether it be handheld or whatever—put some gak on it and give it a little more weight and turn it into that tool. We were the first people to get it. These bodies were hot off the bench. I was very, very pleased with what it allowed me to do. It was small enough for me to be able to put it anywhere I wanted very quickly but big enough to give me the aesthetics and the practicality that a “normal” camera would give me. It was pretty exciting.

Filmmaker: Are you going to use it going forward?

Soderbergh: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know why I wouldn’t. I guess my question for them is: are people supposed to use this now? I have three Monstro bodies. I’m wondering what I do with those. Rent them out, I guess.
 
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On set with Soderbergh.
 
Razz16mm said:
I can wait until it’s out to decide.

Soderbergh shot his next feature on Komodo prototypes. Here is his take on it:

What’s interesting is the film that I made since The Laundromat with Meryl that we just wrapped, I was using the new Red Komodo, which is the best of both. It’s extremely small, but it’s got a full-sized sensor. You can strip it down to absolutely nothing and it’s truly quite small and light. The lens is bigger and heavier than the body. Or you can very easily—if you need a little bit of mass because of the shot you’re doing, whether it be handheld or whatever—put some gak on it and give it a little more weight and turn it into that tool. We were the first people to get it. These bodies were hot off the bench. I was very, very pleased with what it allowed me to do. It was small enough for me to be able to put it anywhere I wanted very quickly but big enough to give me the aesthetics and the practicality that a “normal” camera would give me. It was pretty exciting.

Filmmaker: Are you going to use it going forward?

Soderbergh: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know why I wouldn’t. I guess my question for them is: are people supposed to use this now? I have three Monstro bodies. I’m wondering what I do with those. Rent them out, I guess.
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Fair play. At least they gave it to Soderbergh this time and not Ketch Rossi, but let's see where it ends up and at what price and with how much pain.
 
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