Is Final Cut Pro going to be available on PC?

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I've heard rumours that FCP will be soon available for PC's.... Is this true?

And if so, will we get the same performance for DVCPRO HD like we do on the Mac's?
 
It will be available on Intel Macintoshes in late March.

Although FCP originally start as Key Grip and was cross platform, FCP sells Apple hardware.
 
I don't think FCP will ever be available on the PC, per se. Soon, you might be able to have an Intel Mac that will run both OS X and Windows, but you'll never be able to run Final Cut in Windows. The great software is what they use to drive people to buy their hardward, which (I believe) is where they make most of their money.
 
Premeire used to run on the Mac. But when FCP captured the Mac market, Adobe pulled out. The chances of them making a Mac version again are equal to the changes of Apple making FCP for the PC.
 
Apple will never, ever release FCP for Windows. As has already been stated, FCP sells an awful lot of Macs.

That's the advantage of being the manufacturer of the software and the hardware!

FCP goes from strength to strength. Sure, Vegas and Premier are OK, but they are a couple of leagues down on FCP. And FCP is eating big time into Avid.

Having used FCP for the last year solid, I love it.
 
Premeire used to run on the Mac. But when FCP captured the Mac market, Adobe pulled out. The chances of them making a Mac version again are equal to the changes of Apple making FCP for the PC.
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The way I remember it, Final Cut came out and was so cheap, if you had a Mac, there was no reason to stick with the old, clunky version of Premiere. It fixed all the problems that Premiere had (I once read Final cut was designed by the same team who created Premiere, but fixed all the things they did wrong the first time). At that time I was still A/B editing in Premiere 4 or 5 on a Pinnacle DV500 board. It worked for me as a student but, at the time, I felt Premiere was geared more to the corporate video market than mainstream.

That doesn't mean Premiere hasn't gotten better.

I think that it was becuse of Final Cut that Adobe reengineered Premiere from the ground up for PPro 1. That was the first time I was ever 'wowed' by Premiere. Of course, by this time I was getting more saavy with After Effects and DVD authoring, so I appreciated the upgraded features and was able to use them more effectively (who-ray for me).

Since then, Final Cut and Premiere have been neck and neck in many ways, but I don't think the Premiere users are as 'gung ho' about Premiere as the Final Cut users about Final Cut (and many Mac users about Macintosh). My Mac buddies are always giving me the "PCs suck, dude, get a Mac" or "Premiere sucks, dude, get a Mac AND Final Cut. The PC is a dinosaur!" I always shrug and nod. My feet firmly planted in the tar pit.

Personally, If I have to get a Mac to use my HVX, I will. But grudgingly. I've got the camera, so I feel a little more urgency about finding a way to edit the footage. Be it hardware or Software, I know a PC solution HAS to come along. There HAS to be a way to edit Hi Def in real time. That's all there is to it. I'd even go to Avid Xpress, if it edited in real time.

I'm still waiting to hear about Canopus Edius and it's related hardware. Edius, by the way, is the only NLE to edit in the HVX native file format, I think it's .mxf. Right? I'm basing this statement on what a dealer told me after I learned that Axio won't support the HVX in some of it's 24p modes.

Sorry, derailed my train of thought. Back to my response:

Just because Premiere wasn't able to get the DVCPRO HD Codec in this release doesn't mean it's not an excellent program. It is. It's all grown up and if you use After Effects on every project, like I do, the integration is priceless.

So please don't be so hasty in your opinions about the new Premiere. I was at the MGLA Adobe release night last month:

http://mgla.org/summaries/2006_01.html

...and after the demo of Adobe Production Studio Premium there was a show of hands from Mac users who would like to be able to purchase a Mac version of the product. You would be surprised at the number of hands that went up. I know that I was impressed.

Final Cut is a great program, though, I admit. I would be surprised if their next release integrates with Motion and their DVD authoring program like it does with it's audio program.

...And even though I am being stubborn about switching from a PC, I once read -- And it may still be true -- Nothing pushes video along better than a Mac.

Cheers,

MIKE
 
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Randy Ubillos and other members of the Final Cut Pro team originally created Premiere. They were then hired by Macromedia to create KeyGrip, built from the ground up as a more professional video editing program based on QuickTime.

Macromedia made a decision to be a web company instead of competing head-on with Adobe in every category and decided to find a buyer for their non-web applications, including KeyGrip, by 1998 renamed as Final Cut. Final Cut was shown in private room demonstrations as a 0.9 alpha at the NAB in 1998 after Macromedia pulled out of the main show floor.

At the demonstration both Mac and Windows versions were shown. The Mac version was working with a Truevision RTX dual stream real time card with limited real time effects. When no purchaser could be found Apple purchased the team as a defensive move. When Apple could not find a buyer in turn, it continued development work, focusing on adding FireWire/DV support and at NAB 199 Apple introduced Final Cut Pro.


With the introduction of FCP, Adobe Premiere market share plummented, since its ancient codebase had neither the features nor the design flair to compete. In 2003, Adobe introduced Premiere Pro as a Windows-only product with an entirely new codebase and many FCP-like features.
 
Randy Ubillos and other members of the Final Cut Pro team originally created Premiere. They were then hired by Macromedia to create KeyGrip, built from the ground up as a more professional video editing program based on QuickTime.
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That is more than I heard from my friends and you didn't say 'dude' or tell me I have to buy a Mac. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

With the introduction of FCP, Adobe Premiere market share plummented, since its ancient codebase had neither the features nor the design flair to compete. In 2003, Adobe introduced Premiere Pro as a Windows-only product with an entirely new codebase and many FCP-like features.
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Thus spake Zarathustra.

Adobe got caught with their pants down... Big time.
 
It's just like when Jobs was asked if he'd make a Mac OS for window. He said nope, that in order to get the Mac OS you have to buy a Mac... However, some are already cracking this and I'm sure they'll be some interesting developments with the new intel stuff.
 
Justyn said:
However, some are already cracking this and I'm sure they'll be some interesting developments with the new intel stuff.
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What they are "cracking" is the capability to install OS X Intel on non-Mac hardware.

It ain't got nothin to do with running FCP on Windows.
 
Justyn said:
some are already cracking this
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"Your karma check for today: There once was a user that whined/his existing OS was so blind/he'd do better to pirate/an OS that ran great/but found his hardware declined./Please don't steal Mac OS!/Really, that's way uncool./(C) Apple Computer, Inc."

They haven't cracked pass this yet.
 
BigMike said:
That is more than I heard from my friends and you didn't say 'dude' or tell me I have to buy a Mac. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
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I write about professional video editing apps for a couple of web sites. I also moderate at others.

One thing that drives me batty is "dude" or posts that start with "so, I was . . . "

But the worst is text messaging "messages" on a professional forum, ie "r u do in this?"
 
Justyn said:
It's just like when Jobs was asked if he'd make a Mac OS for window. He said nope, that in order to get the Mac OS you have to buy a Mac... However, some are already cracking this and I'm sure they'll be some interesting developments with the new intel stuff.
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Even if they did crack it, it wont run 100% cracking might be with a 3rd party emulator or code base and will comprimise FCP in the process, also if your running it cracked your probably going to get a shitload of errors.
 
Why does this rumor make the rounds EVERY year?

I'll believe that FCP will be released for PCs on the day that they announce it.

Otherwise, it's all rumor. Just like last year. And the year before that. And the year before that...

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30
 
david_kuznicki said:
Why does this rumor make the rounds EVERY year?

I'll believe that FCP will be released for PCs on the day that they announce it.

Otherwise, it's all rumor. Just like last year. And the year before that. And the year before that...

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30
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I agree, Mac didnt go Intel to make cross platform aplications.
 
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