Panasonic's update to cure noise issue

[joe 1008]

The HDX400 is an interlace camera ONLY. It does NOT and will NEVER do "24p."

Well, the european version does 25p - quite close to 24p. I´ve seen features shot with 25p - it works quite well.

 

[Barry_Green]

come to think of it. If the 1080i-only HDX400 is pricing out at $32K without glass, that suggests that the HPC2000 has got to price out at some kind of premium above that, yes?

No, because the HDX has that expensive tape drive in it. They could engineer the HPC to cost less even though it has more features, potentially.

 

[Ralph Oshiro]

No, because the HDX has that expensive tape drive in it. They could engineer the HPC to cost less even though it has more features, potentially.

Ahhh, yes. The tape drive! Well, then I stand behind my original prediction on the HPC2000 price . . . $29,500 MSRP without glass.

 

[Anders Holck]

Thats 720p60 and 1080i60 only.

And I would be pretty sure that if this cam actually did do 24p and 30p it would be all over the the press release.

 

[Lenilenapi]

Why does everyone assume this is not a Varicam II. Didn't it only say it would record 720p, 1080i HD or 480i formats. Seems to me that could include everything on an HVX. All the 1080 P formats are written over 1080i anyway.
Did I miss something?
Granted it seems they would be more specific.

 

[Anders Holck]

Well, the european version does 25p - quite close to 24p. I´ve seen features shot with 25p - it works quite well.

The HDX-400 camera uses 1 million pixel CCD's (921600 effective) which means that they are 1280x720. So the base capture is 720p60. 1080i60 is then created from this capture by upressing and record in DVCPRO HD 1080i. Spatial offset is used to increase the resolution

Note that the Varicam also uses that very same 1 million pixel CCD but records to DVCPRO HD 720p.

The HDX-400E camcorder also uses the same CCD, but it's running at 720p50 and 720p25

It allows you to either record 1080i50 or 1080p25psf in DVCPRO HD 1080i.

All the camcorders are stated to have the same spec of 700 video lines of resolution....

I think the reason the HDX-400 does not feature 30p or 24 p is because the Varicam already does this. 30p would have been possible to implement easily, but 24p would have required the camera to have the advanced pulldown features of the varicam.

The HDX-400E does have 25p because there is no need for pulldown to implement this and because there is no european version of the varicam.

Fact is that that Panasonic has split their products into two catagories: ENG and Cinema (or whatever). one is a basic 60i recorder and one is a 24/30/60/Cinegamma. You pay more to get the Cinema features.


SD (tape):
ENG: SDC915, SDC615

Cinema: SDX900

SD (P2):
ENG: SPC700

Cinema: SPX800

HD (tape):
ENG: HDX400
Cinema: HDC27H

HD (P2):
ENG: HPC2000
Cinema: ????????

 

[contentlab]

D5 is 235mbit.. 10 bit solid.

so my idea of putting D5 right to P2 is workable? without raiding cards?

and actually i can't take credit, this was a "rumor" given to me by a panny rep at resfest. it only made sense. which is part of why i think so highly of P2 as an awesome engineering solution. it has the bandwidth to accomodate data now and well into the future.

 

[Barry_Green]

so my idea of putting D5 right to P2 is workable? without raiding cards?

Yes, and they've already shown a picture of a 2/3" P2-based camera with an "HD D5" badge on the side of it.

 

[JMLang]

Why no 1080P?

It does seem too bad that the AJ-HPC2000 isn't going to have 1080p, but as someone mentioned earlier in the thread they'll probably be including it in the next generation of Varicam. Sucks for us but makes sense for Panasonic if the only competition is HDCAM-SR.

I brought up the noise issue and I'm not sure this is worth the extra $20k more then the HVX, not that it wouldn't be great for our application to lose all that noise...

 

[Lenilenapi]

Well, I'm still wondring why they would withhold all the same formats that they managed to stuff into the HVX for $6K
Maybe though this a native interlace camera unlike the HVX is a native Progressive?